Defatizing with Slimfast Gunk by Bob

[bowell]

What does the slimfast tast like with water, is it better or worse with milk?

To be Honest OK with both
The chocolate and coffee are a strong Taste hard to tell ,the others have not tried with Milk
the Caramel Temptation only had that with water the Once,
Very sweet think it would be even sweeter with milk urrrr

I was going to put that one in the Bin but Patch said i will get used to the sweet mix :roll:
I will leave it a week try it again the then

TOP TIP Ice cubes with the Mix let it stand for 5 mins

I am keeping to water for my Mixes as per study
I have most of my veg at night small carrot to nibble around 15:00

Trying to try and stick with the study menu
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/assets/documents/StudyRecipes.pdf

During the 8 weeks of the diet;
 No poultry or fish or meat
 No bread or pasta
 No dairy products (even full skimmed milk!)
 No root vegetables like potato, sweet potato, turnip
 No pulses
 No fruits
 No alcohol

 

[Leapoffaith]

Thanks for the link Bob some really good ideas on there, it's going to make life so much easier.

Michele.

 

[bowell]

Dont know whats going on with me :!:
I must say I do feel really good on this ? i don't feel any huger or headaches
All seems far too easy I keep waiting for the CATCH ? Even the Cost for the slim-fast meals is OK
50p a meal beat that Asda

Dropping Metformin the week before not a problem
Now dropping the Glit slowly see what happens tomorrow if all OK i will drop a second 80mg
Getting used to drinking Black coffee also a few Herbal teas

Only thing I can think going Pear shape now is the weight loss with me being so Inactive,
imposable to exercise

I am off to Hospital Urology tomorrow for a check up
Need to hand a Urine sample in ,Cant wait to see if that comes back with anything or Not mrgreen:

Will pop into Newcastle after and grab some more flavors in Boots also try a ready made Slimfast shake for lunch , pick some more Veg up at the market

My Aim is to stick with it for the eight weeks ,,Then replace Mid Day Shake with a normal healthy meal around 300<>400Kcals Until i reach my Ideal tonnage

Bob

 

[bowell]

18th Thursday


Breakfast a Coffee shake with ice Ummm and Black mug of Coffee
that should keep me awake for the Hospital visit :shock:
BG 5.2 at breakfast
2hr+BG 5.3
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Lunch Ready made Strawberry shake Slimfast 230kcals from boots
with large black coffee
BG 5.3 at lunch
2hr+BG 6.1
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Evening meal I went to Loyds Chemist picked up a Optislim Royal Chocolate just to try it out
to me the Slimfast tastes Nicer and cheaper per meal ?
17:30 BG 6.0 at Evening meal
2hr+ 6.5 He he he so pleased
Dropping off a second 80mg Glit tablet see what happens :roll: makes you think i have been taking BG tablets all for nothing looking at the BG results now ? :roll:

If BG are Good tonight will drop the Last Glit tablet
I will then be taken NO other diabetic tablet other than Januvia if BG still OK im still alive I will
stop taking that on Monday ,,Diabetic Drug Free

Can see i will have egg on face next week :cry:

Edit to up date BG in the day

 

[Patch]

Bob - I've found that caffeine hits me HARD while I'm de-fatising. Had to cut it out COMPLETELY, else I can't sleep at night.

Are you getting plenty of water? I'm certain it's helping (me at least..)

 

[pixor]

I'm definitely drinking more (water, not alcohol ), which I am sure is good for me in general. It does help me feel a bit less hungry - at least that's what I am telling myself.

I don't drink a lot of alcohol anyway, but the idea of a pint (or two) of Theakstons at the end of this is pretty good

 

[blacksmarty1]

I'm so pleased that someone else is on the slimfast as I thought it was just me.

Been on it now 18 days and counting.I found that I could mix some of the ones
I don't like in with the ones I do.

I am trying the extreme version and only having lettuce, cucumber and tomato
twice a day and 3 shakes made with half water and half milk.

I feel great and thought I would be crawling up the wall with cravings, but no still going strong.

I am T2 and only test bg every other day this seems to have steadied to 5.8 each time.

I have lost an amazing 14 lbs. Just got an exercise bike so we will see how that goes but I am not a great one for the old exercise.......probably my downfall !!!

 

[bowell]

Patch
Yes I am drinking loads of water ,coffee not a problem with sleeping as always have a dose of morphine before bed that sends me off OK 8) I use a catheter with bag that has a scale on the side so i know the amount coming out its more than 4lts a day plus the nights worth

blacksmarty1
I am only mixing my Slimfast with with water
i am Keeping to study menu as close as i can eg NO MILK or dairy products
I pig out on Veg around 9 at night

Had a good look around I think the Slimfast is the best deal with money and contents inc all the V&M plus my wife works at a large supermarket she receives a good discount on it

I have a few slimfast meal bars have not used them yet

I Keep a water bottle next to me all the time with water in keep sipping it slowly all the time


I have doctors on Monday so i will see if i have lost anything My belt is in one notch already ?

Bob

 

[blacksmarty1]

I'm not so fortunate I am in france and have to get people to bring it over.
I started my plan before I joined this site and did not have any further info than the original
report in the press about the 600 calorie study. But I was so bowled over by the prospect of
kicking the diabetes I thought I would have a go. I don't know if I have messed it up but will
be using water tomorrow. Thanks for the link to the info at least it is a good starting platform
for me.The French stuff is dire and I am only mixing it in because I need to pad out my supply
till next week, when I get my next fix haha.

 

[bowell]

All the info you need is here i will add more links when i find them
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=23135

Study Menu
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/assets/documents/StudyRecipes.pdf

GP notes for study
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/assets/documents/InformationfordoctorsRT.pdf

Slimfast medical info for t2
http://www.slimfast-medical.co.uk/pdf/21356_SLIM_PDFdesign_Diabetes.pdf


Do a search on ebay enter VLCD You may find some slimfast there also some other makes
keep an eye on the Vit and Min included

My Gp was more in favor of the Slimfast meals than other i showed him ?

Read all you can and make you own mind up

 

[blacksmarty1]

Thanks Bob

I do take berocca multi vit drink always.

 

[bowell]

Well you are 15 days in front of me, seems to be working well for you and Patch his BG also amazing
Its taken me this long to get all my ducks lined up ready to start
Only day three, I am amazed how easy it is SO FAR ?

If someone had told me I could drop 90% of my meds by day 3 and still have near normal BG levels
told them to stop sniffing the fairy dust :lol:
Its totally amazed me ,Still thinking I will find a high BG next morning,, early days so far
Find out more on Monday morning at Docs will find out if i have lost anything or not
He is also doing mini medical on me

Keep us all tuned in how your doing

Bob

 

[Patch]

Keeping 'em crossed for ya, Bob! I hope you knock your GP's socks off!

 

[bowell]

Day 5 Friday the 19th Aug
I was DEAD Tired Last Night falling asleep in the chair lift very ,hard to keep awake like I was drunk
head hit the pillow

FBG 6:00
Breakfast
1hr+ 9.6 Finally remembered to do a +1hr BG I did think go high like Patch ,,Not as bad
2hr+ 6.5 He he he interesting what will happen when i drop the Januvia
slimfast must be better stuff :lol:
Breakfast was a Vanilla Shake Not toooo bad ,not one of the better ones
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Lunch Strawberry Shake Ummmmm
BG 6.2
1hr+BG 8.0 Better than breakfast :roll:
2hr+6.7
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Evening Meal Strawberry Shake and Salad
BG 5.3
2hr+ BG 5.2

Today
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Only Taking 1 tablet Januvia at lunch time NOW
will knock that on the head Sunday if BG is all OK
Edit for BG update

 

[blacksmarty1]

Well done!! I know what you mean about the vanilla that's the one I mix in with strawberry or banana.
Just think Bob only the weekend to go and that's week 1 over and done with. I can assure you the great feeling stays with you....... I know you just think the bubble will burst.... well day 19 and not yet. I have changed over to the water in the shake this morning and it's OK. Only difference is texture is thinner but no less flavour.
Can't wait to see your results with the doc Bob!!!

 

[bowell]

I smashed some ice cubes up then add to the shake Nice !!!

Non are so bad i could not drink them Just have my Favorites Now

I might try that later Duel Mixes

Yes looking forward to Monday and the docs ,,More so the Surgery Nurse she keeps saying Im off my head and does not understand the GP going along with it ,Told me I will never not work ,

Bob

 

[bowell]

Saturday 20th Aug
Now i am Not Taking my normal 2500mg Metformin also stopped my Glicazide 240mg :shock:
if all goes well this weekend I will stop taking my final Diabetic drug Januvia

Breakfast Blissful Banana shake large black coffee small bowl of salad
BG 6.3 Up late later due to bad night pain wise (nothing to do with food)
2hr+5.6 He he he he
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Lunch Strawberry shake
BG 6
BG 2hr + 6.7
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Eving meal Coffee shake
BG 6.5
BG2hr+6.7?

I am getting good numbers now , so something is going on

Still feeling very good Only time I feel i need something is around 9 at night so thats the time i keep my 80% veg for ,Last night was cabbage soup (boiled cabbage and beef oxo) Nice
Now I have drooped the 240mg Glicazide hopping that will also help me drop some lbs :?:
If i am OK Sunday i will drop my last diabetic drug Januvia :roll:
I will then be diet only diabetic,,? First time ever for me ,as placed on meds from day one :?:
all this in just one week

Edit for BG up dates

 

[blacksmarty1]

Well Bob hope all goes well for you with the meds this weekend......

I think I have made a bit of a boob this week with the veg..............just realised that
250gms is not all that much!!!!
I will have to go back to just lettuce, cucumber and tomato this seems to suit me better.
A plate full dun't weigh that much haha.
I have been adding greenbeans and some spinach as an alternative warm meal that's no good.
Bg 5.7 this morning so that's ok.

 

[bowell]

Celery stick is good small amount salt you can nibble that while watching the box also helps out with the fiber
low on kcals

Cucumber and tomato with malt vinegar salt pepper to taste is easy to down

More info for you the Optifast allowed extras to down load much the same as study extras
http://www.optifast.com.au/media/1786/optifast allowed foods.pdf


Optifast program info if you goto the bottom of this page you can see all the stages
http://www.optifast.com.au/why-optifast-vlcd.aspx
eg
Intensive phase 8 weeks
3 Optifast® VLCD
sachets or bars +
2 Litres of Water +
2 Cups Low Starch Vegetables +
1 Tsp of Oil

 

[Leapoffaith]

Your doing really well Bob, i am looking fwd to your weigh in, which is probably a bit strange, because i don't know you, but i am impressed you are almost off the drugs. My diabtetic consultant told me Glicazide makes you gain weight, so i bet you really see a difference next week as well.
I have been on the drugs from day one as well so i know what it's like, you really are inspiring me with the matter of fact way that you are handling this. week one almost down. Yea!!!