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Good news about the little town I'm planning to move to ... I just learned that there is a bakery there where the baker knows all about carbs and keto baking! Can't wait to go shopping there once I get settled in. :)
 

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Good news about the little town I'm planning to move to ... I just learned that there is a bakery there where the baker knows all about carbs and keto baking! Can't wait to go shopping there once I get settled in. :)
That sounds absolutely brilliant @SaskiaKC
I am looking forward to moving there myself!

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This may be a stupid question, but have you ever seen a pain specialist about medicines or other treatments for neuropathy? I just came across an online forum where one person said that sometimes GPs are not very knowledgeable about pain medications. I didn't know that. I do know that some GPs are better than others at working with specialists to coordinate treatments for their patients. My parents' GP consulted with their cardiologist, but I have known of other doctors who did not consult with each other before prescribing for their patients.
 
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My apologies. I don't know what "mithered" means. Is it anything like "mothered"? :D
Here we are once again separated by this common language of ours. ;)
They muttered dire threats at him and complained to me.
:)
Many English people @SaskiaKC don't know what 'mithered' means. It is something more old fashioned, something in days gone by that a mother would have said to her small child who was hanging on to her long skirts and bothering her preventing her getting on with her work.
But that word 'mither' seems to be coming back in everyday language use again.

Popeye was mithering me this morning. I was asleep in bed when he begins patting my face with his paw, he was trying to get me awake and up and out of bed. I wanted to sleep. He wouldn't leave me be until I got up and took him to the kitchen. Consequently I am painting early this morning..
 
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@gennepher The hug is for being mithered. :)
And one for Popeye too, for wanting to go into the kitchen.
I would describe the child hanging onto the mother's skirts as "whining" or even "pestering."

@jjraak I can't find a synonym for "fussing" at someone, so I've concluded that it must be a Southern dialect term; it means sort of the same thing as scolding someone. So my girlcats were saying to Rupert, "Don't you come in here! This is OUR house!"
^. .^. .^
:)

I wonder if "mithering" is anything like "moithering" ...
 

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@gennepher and @Cumberland
This may be a stupid question, but have you ever seen a pain specialist about medicines or other treatments for neuropathy? I just came across an online forum where one person said that sometimes GPs are not very knowledgeable about pain medications. I didn't know that. I do know that some GPs are better than others at working with specialists to coordinate treatments for their patients. My parents' GP consulted with their cardiologist, but I have known of other doctors who did not consult with each other before prescribing for their patients.

Yes I have @SaskiaKC
But I was just prescribed pain killers.
Neither my specialist at the time nor my GP at that time, or any subsequent GP's, really understood how debilitating neuropathy was. And consequently the advice was there was not much they could do and I would have to put up with it.

I have just remembered, I was given another med 15 years ago for something else (throat swallowing problems), and that was Adalat. It helped quite a bit with my peripheral neuropathy in my hands and fingers and in my toes. So I asked the gastroenterologist who prescribed Adalat, and he said yes it would also help with neuropathy. So I am thinking great, this is taking away the excess neuropathic pain in my toes and hands and making it more bearable. But then a couple of years later my own GP took it off me saying I couldn't have it any more, but she refused to give me a reason and mumbled something. I asked her to repeat what she had said, and she just waved me to be quiet. She didn't like me talking, even if I was asking a repeat if I didn't hear something she said. Yes she knew I was deaf, and I even wore a deaf badge I had made at that time, and given her audiology sheets and a letter from the hospital to explain how deaf I was. So I was very upset.

Then, the NHS podiatrist I was seeing at the time prescribed Amitriptyline, for the neuropathy in my toes.And she prescribed a variety of strengths of tablets and told me the max I could take, and told me she had prescribed these different strengths so I could take different amounts on different days according to my needs that day. (It also helped with the fibromyalgia and the brain fog). That was great too, it worked quite well, until oneday a I picked up my prescription and the amitriptyline had been taken off, so it was a couple of weeks before I could get an appointment with the GP again, and she said I couldn't have it any more. I asked for a reason and she said it would contraindicated other meds I was taking. I pointed out to her that I had no problems at all, and I had been taking same meds the last 5 years I had been taking the Amitriptyline. But she wouldn't let me have it back. The original podiatrist had left, so I couldn't get any support. Fast forward a few years and a new NHS podiatrist said oh you need Amitriptyline, you should have asked for it, of course the pain killers you have been given by your GP will not work at all for peripheral neuropathy. I explained I did have it in the past and my GP had taken it off me. Stupid GP (or words to that effect) the podiatrist said, your GP doesn't understand pain, I will get her to prescribe you Amitriptyline. But the GP would only prescribe the smallest dose, which is about as useful as using a sieve to catch rain. GP refused to prescribe any more, and that podiatrist was not there any more...

I need at approaching a quarter of the Amitriptyline packet of tablets (for one dose) prescribed for the whole month to make any inroad on that neuropathic pain, if I am having a very bad day with the neuropathic pain (but I wouldn't take the max dose every day). So it ends up being virtually useless as a regular medication. Originally with the higher dose, it also had helped with my brain fog with the fibromyalgia. And that had been taken from me. (Amitriptyline doesn't help everyone, but it had been a lifesaver for me). But this small tiny dose I am prescribed now, doesn't help enough, unless I take quite a few (only as much as I was told by the specialists in the first place years ago). I keep all specialist letters, but my GP over rode them all. I got a patients advocate, but that took months of negotiation, and then the GP refuse to co-operate.

So this story goes on and on. And I found the GP's don't legally have to prescribe what the specialist at the hospital who has done all your investigations and tests and scans and x rays to come to his conclusion what you need for your health. There is no legal requisite that says your GP has to follow what the Specialist recommends you need for your condition. I even went as far as the Head of the local health board. And he was the one that explained to me this. And he said what the specialist says, is only a recommendation to your GP (who is the one who prescribes your medicines on a regular basis), your own GP doesn't have to follow the specialist's recommendations, and often doesn't...

I am on my soapbox again...sorry...I have invested hours, days, months, years, trying to get the GP to follow different specialist's recommendations....

Why not change your GP, even I can hear you screaming at me. I did...several times...


You are right in what you say...

Back in an hour or so...I am going back to painting....
 
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Good morning/evening folks, a straight 6.0 on the dice today. Last commute to Cov for me, my part of the project was finished and it would be a couple of weeks before the fit out in the main part of the "shed" will begin, they will be manufacturing aircraft parts there so some heavy machines coming in might have made the job a bit more interesting than the general lighting and power that is required of us, but the commute is horrible, just not viable ecologically or financially.

Anyways, it's Friday folks let's enjoy it, have a lovely day all.
 

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Good evening/morning, @trick60 . I hope your last commute to Cov(entry?) goes quickly and pleasantly, and your whole day.

@gennepher If I were to scream at anyone it would be the GPs. I gather the specialists cannot do their own prescribing? I think they can here. But only for people who can afford to see them at all. :banghead::rolleyes:

Perhaps it would be nice if we could all travel through time back to the Garden of Eden, taking George Washington with us so he could chop down, not the cherry tree, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, before the serpent could tempt Eve to eat its fruit.
 

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Good evening/morning, @trick60 . I hope your last commute to Cov(entry?) goes quickly and pleasantly, and your whole day.

@gennepher If I were to scream at anyone it would be the GPs. I gather the specialists cannot do their own prescribing? I think they can here. But only for people who can afford to see them at all. :banghead::rolleyes:

Perhaps it would be nice if we could all travel through time back to the Garden of Eden, taking George Washington with us so he could chop down, not the cherry tree, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, before the serpent could tempt Eve to eat its fruit.

Hi @SaskiaKC

Sometimes the Specialists will write out your first prescription, or they will send a letter to your GP telling your GP what they recommend (I always ask for a copy of that letter from the Specialist), but then to carry on getting that medicine, your own GP then has to write out the prescription on a monthly basis. But your own GP may not prescribe that medicine or treatment at all, or your own GP (this has also happened to me) will say I am not prescribing that medicine/s but I am prescribing something different. In one particular instance these different ones were absolutely useless for me. There was a reason the Specialist had chosen these 3 medicines to work in conjunction with each other (they had done the tests, biopsy etc).

NOW, I only knew my GP has prescribed different medication than the Specialist had recommended because I had asked for a copy of the letter the Specialist sent to my GP.. Otherwise I would never have known that my GP was not following the the Specialist's recommendations. And consequently I would have assumed that the Specialist was useless because the meds didn't work for me. BUT, I had the Specialist's letter so I knew I was getting different medicines than she recommended. My GP refused to follow the Specialist's recommendations. So that was me back to the Specialist again, and she was very helpful phoning my GP, many times, who was being very obtuse. More letters outlining precise reasons why I needed these 3 meds in conjunction with each other (I have copies of all these). Finally I got them from my GP. That is not the end of the story.

Same GP a year or so later, changed them all to useless medicines, not the ones that were recommended. But original Specialist had left by this time. I had all the original letters, so went back to GP, GP refused. So I employed a Patient's Advocate again. Took a few months of back and forth. Got the meds I needed, the ones that been recommended. BUT a few months later my GP changed one of them back to the useless medicine. This can be soul destroying, but I think by this time you might have gathered that if the 'fight' is reasonable, and the 'goal' is reasonable for all concerned, then I never give up.

So this time I approached the pharmacist and explained what had happened. I use the same pharmacy all the time so he knows everything anyway, my pharmacist is very useful and has been the one over the years to tell me how to proceed. Anyway, my pharmacist looked the med up, and explained that the GP has certain lists on their computer which says what medicines they can order. The GP cannot order just any medicine, if it is not on his computer he cannot order it, only the nearest approximation that is on his computer. So, the pharmacist explained to me, that my GP would need to separately hand write the prescription needed for this particular prescribing that I needed and had been recommended by the specialist. And said good luck to me because my GP would be resistant to that. So I went to the Practice Manager of my GP surgery, and put all this to him, and a few words and phrases the pharmacist suggested I used (my pharmacist has been very good to me over the years suggesting how I can keep the conversation with my GP or surgery on an even keel, which can be linking hard when you are trying to fight your corner). Anyway I got my med back.

I'm on my soapbox again, aren't I?

Well, one reason I am explaining this and my previous reply to @SaskiaKC at length is to explain the vagaries of the Specialist and GP system. A lot of people/patients don't understand the GP doesn't necessarily follow the Specialist's recommendations. The reason why people/patients do not know this, is because they do not have a copy of the initial letter of investigations and recommendations the Specialist has sent to their GP.
You have to specifically ASK for that letter from your Specialist on that final visit. It is not sent automatically to the patient.

I am constantly telling people/friends to ask for this copy letter from the Specialist. And I get 'oh I forgot' or some excuse, and then when they start grumbling to me at a later date because of problems with their GP's stopping their prescribed meds etc, (and there is so much of that in the area where I live, all the GP's in this area do not have a good reputation for many things), I tell them they should have asked for that Specialist letter in the first place.

Okay I will get off my soapbox now on this...but I hope I might have helped in some way for someone who reads this...
 
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6.3 this morning and it hasn't snowed, very disappointing as I was looking forward to it and a romp through the park. Oh well, have to make do with walking thru' puddles instead. Enjoy the day :)

Aww I would have loved to see a photo of the Snowman you made...
Perhaps another day @OldButBold ?
 

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Good Morning and 5.5 for me today, that's a much better number.

Granddaughter day so lots of fun, indoors I suspect as it's very wet.

Perhaps it would be nice if we could all travel through time back to the Garden of Eden, taking George Washington with us so he could chop down, not the cherry tree, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, before the serpent could tempt Eve to eat its fruit.

But wasn't the temptation and eating of the fruit the whole purpose of some deities plan for life on earth to test us poor souls, free will and all that? Sounds a little too idyllic for my tastes but then I'm no theologian. Loved the photo of the rig you posted, alathough over here in the U.K. You would be hardpushed to negotiate many of the smaller country roads, still fab though.

@trick60 hope your last day in Coventry goes well.

Make good use of your days no matter what it throws at you.
 

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Whoops...I have forgotten to post my Fbg...

Fbg 6.9

Painting for today, is me trying yesterday's painting again, to get more control of the paper and the watercolours. And to get it a bit darker (because the St Petersburg watercolour paints are not very intense), I did it in several layers, letting each layer dry before I put the next layer on.This made the colours more intense, but it is time consuming, and I found it annoying to do that.
So, you really would not think I had spent a couple of hours (including waiting for drying time between layers) on this little wee A5 painting....

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I am going to do some more experiments today with different papers....

Have fun
Take care
Enjoy yourselves
 

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Hi @SaskiaKC

Sometimes the Specialists will write out your first prescription, or they will send a letter to your GP telling your GP what they recommend (I always ask for a copy of that letter from the Specialist), but then to carry on getting that medicine, your own GP then has to write out the prescription on a monthly basis. But your own GP may not prescribe that medicine or treatment at all, or your own GP (this has also happened to me) will say I am not prescribing that medicine/s but I am prescribing something different. In one particular instance these different ones were absolutely useless for me. There was a reason the Specialist had chosen these 3 medicines to work in conjunction with each other (they had done the tests, biopsy etc).

NOW, I only knew my GP has prescribed different medication than the Specialist had recommended because I had asked for a copy of the letter the Specialist sent to my GP.. Otherwise I would never have known that my GP was not following the the Specialist's recommendations. And consequently I would have assumed that the Specialist was useless because the meds didn't work for me. BUT, I had the Specialist's letter so I knew I was getting different medicines than she recommended. My GP refused to follow the Specialist's recommendations. So that was me back to the Specialist again, and she was very helpful phoning my GP, many times, who was being very obtuse. More letters outlining precise reasons why I needed these 3 meds in conjunction with each other (I have copies of all these). Finally I got them from my GP. That is not the end of the story.

Same GP a year or so later, changed them all to useless medicines, not the ones that were recommended. But original Specialist had left by this time. I had all the original letters, so went back to GP, GP refused. So I employed a Patient's Advocate again. Took a few months of back and forth. Got the meds I needed, the ones that been recommended. BUT a few months later my GP changed one of them back to the useless medicine. This can be soul destroying, but I think by this time you might have gathered that if the 'fight' is reasonable, and the 'goal' is reasonable for all concerned, then I never give up.

So this time I approached the pharmacist and explained what had happened. I use the same pharmacy all the time so he knows everything anyway, my pharmacist is very useful and has been the one over the years to tell me how to proceed. Anyway, my pharmacist looked the med up, and explained that the GP has certain lists on their computer which says what medicines they can order. The GP cannot order just any medicine, if it is not on his computer he cannot order it, only the nearest approximation that is on his computer. So, the pharmacist explained to me, that my GP would need to separately hand write the prescription needed for this particular prescribing that I needed and had been recommended by the specialist. And said good luck to me because my GP would be resistant to that. So I went to the Practice Manager of my GP surgery, and put all this to him, and a few words and phrases the pharmacist suggested I used (my pharmacist has been very good to me over the years suggesting how I can keep the conversation with my GP or surgery on an even keel, which can be linking hard when you are trying to fight your corner). Anyway I got my med back.

I'm on my soapbox again, aren't I?

Well, one reason I am explaining this and my previous reply to @SaskiaKC at length is to explain the vagaries of the Specialist and GP system. A lot of people/patients don't understand the GP doesn't necessarily follow the Specialist's recommendations. The reason why people/patients do not know this, is because they do not have a copy of the initial letter of investigations and recommendations the Specialist has sent to their GP.
You have to specifically ASK for that letter from your Specialist on that final visit. It is not sent automatically to the patient.

I am constantly telling people/friends to ask for this copy letter from the Specialist. And I get 'oh I forgot' or some excuse, and then when they start grumbling to me at a later date because of problems with their GP's stopping their prescribed meds etc, (and there is so much of that in the area where I live, all the GP's in this area do not have a good reputation for many things), I tell them they should have asked for that Specialist letter in the first place.

Okay I will get off my soapbox now on this...but I hope I might have helped in some way for someone who reads this...

I think, and i'm sure @HarryBeau , will explain better the GP does NOT work for the NHS
they are contracted and work for themselves, i believe.

so i guess we are in the territory of BB's, restaurants, etc setting their own diktat as to what THEY
find reasonable and acceptable to offer...i think..:wacky:

@HarryBeau...HELP :eek:

PS thanks @gennepher for taking the time to explain just how that all works.
good to know about the letters, how in the dark are we, sometimes.
Mushrooms and BS comes to mind...:rolleyes:
 
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But wasn't the temptation and eating of the fruit the whole purpose of some deities plan for life on earth to test us poor souls, free will and all that?

@trick60 hope your last day in Coventry goes well.

Make good use of your days no matter what it throws at you.

AH, the ORIGINAL VIRUS that affected OH so many of us...
side effects, gluttony, lust, and lots of Begatting..apparently :***:

so goes softly into today and begat ye not.:)
 

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Hello and mabe goodbye for a time folks, that should please the Pet fanatics with no sense of humour, life here is a little busy and I have to balance time, projects and time to relax away from technology.

Bloods were mid 8's this morening, I know why and I enjoyed it.

Well folks I'm only 367 posts behind and sorry I won't be catching up, but on a quick skim through @Cumberland is going through the wars, best wishes. Chin up and to use a phrase f%#* em.
I shall miss our resident artists contribution, the humour and wit, but not the daily bible bashing and pet diatribes.
I will visit when time and life permits, but I am struggling to find time to relax.
Stay well, always look on the bright side, there is a silver lining to every cloud, sometimes finding it can be difficult but it is there.

And it's good night me and me's.
Bon voyage - and looking forward to your return - keep up with the recipes!
 
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Good morning - very quick - ouch, ooch, spasm, spasm. 4.8 this am. Koffy and then bendy stretches (similar to bandy snatches but less fierce). Toodle pip.
 
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Morning All. 5.6 for me today. Rushing out soon to help No 2 son and GF to move into their house. Dozen filled rolls, pizzas, teabags, Diet Coke LC lunchbox for me all prepped, plus packed my cleaning bucket with a selection of tools and potions, loo rolls, and so much more ready to go. Just waiting for my lift. Good practice run for the ZA.
Have a good Friday everyone. Stay well, get better, stay safe.
Will check in with you tonight.
 
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