COVID 2019 Comorbidity with Diabetes

[jjraak]

. I mix mine with baking soda, as recommended by Linus Pauling.

This was the quote, and I normally wouldn't link it, but Linus Pauling does seem to have form regarding this

Amazon if any one is considering buying some

 

[francesk]

The only thing that worries me a little bit about the Corona virus is if my partner gets it. He's 82, with COPD, and always finds damp weather impacts on his chest. So he is sensibly staying indoors, not mixing with crowds and living on a diet of cups of tea, normal food and all the cricket he can find on TV!

 

[Winnie53]

jjraak, vitamin C is often made with corn so I like that yours is "non-gmo".

 

[Winnie53]

Warning: Taking high doses of vitamin C can cause glucose monitors to falsely report higher glucose readings... https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&sxsrf=ALeKk026GqUoJNe1Z833tjZ2GhOXOlnwrQ:1583484177177&source=hp&ei=EQ1iXqj5B5Pu-gTL7ZrAAQ&q=vitamin+c+and+glucose+meters&oq=vitamin+c+and+glucose+meters&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39.1123.15483..15999...10.0..0.353.4034.15j21j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..0i67j0i131j0j0i20i263j35i362i39j0i131i67j0i22i30.ll3lF9FkYrI&ved=0ahUKEwjoxYqfuoXoAhUTt54KHcu2BhgQ4dUDCAg&uact=5

 

[Stuarthmfc]

be interesting to see how we see this is being reported around the world
guessing most governments are ok saying X is not as good as us, type thing

here is our news of the day



It’s this kind of reporting that’s creating all the anxiety. Saying there could be 50,000 deaths a day! At that level you think you or anyone you know could be part of it.

 

[kokhongw]

Fewer than 3,200 deaths have been attributed in total to COVID-19.

Unfortunately, that assessment is based on highly questionable/contrived data from China.
If you had been following this 6 weeks long, informative thread...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1223887384892313600.html

 

[jjraak]

and a good reason to keep your personal information highway clear and open to other avenues.
we, like the news outlets aggregate the news feeds we receive and evaluate based on numbers/authority/credentials/
and sometimes just a gut feeling that what we are hearing or seeing doesn't tally up.

And as you point out, that does seem out of range

( was hoping really to see the world view via local news of the UK, if i'm honest.
i seem to know more about the Italian responses and issues then my friend who is actually there, teaching.
A different view of how well/badly we are doing, sort of thing )

I'm watching the US news with the testing kits saga, and they seem to be dropping the ball, a little bit

 

[jjraak]

Unfortunately, that assessment is based on highly questionable/contrived data from China.
If you had been following this 6 weeks long, informative thread...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1223887384892313600.html

WOW..some read.

guy predicts course of international cases mar 1st

mar 3

will re-read later.

cheers for posting

 

[HSSS]

Unfortunately, that assessment is based on highly questionable/contrived data from China.
If you had been following this 6 weeks long, informative thread...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1223887384892313600.html

Wow. Well above my statistical and mathematical abilities. I have no real idea what is being said other than it looks like the author has serious disbelief over the figures coming out of China

 

[lucylocket61]

Can I have a simple explanation of what the guy is saying in the link please? I don't understand the maths or the graphs.

 

[jjraak]

I believe that he is suggesting figures are being manipulated to express a standard of infection rate, that attempts to look like the virus is completely under control with the existing measures...

I think his suggestion is the figures are manufactured..And
The rates are far higher.

His graphs predict the rise as far higher then officially quoted...

And in tandem with data given by the CCP.. He predicted a trajectory that..
SHOULD be taking place.
And the trajectory that WOULD be given out.
IF his suspicions were correct.

Weirdly he matched almost the predicted course of data being given out by the CCP
Which he argues is the manipulated figures

 

[Mr_Pot]

Can I have a simple explanation of what the guy is saying in the link please? I don't understand the maths or the graphs.

I think @jjraak is correct but whatever he is saying makes no difference to whether you or I will get the virus.

 

[jjraak]

Iran...todays figs

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[jjraak]

I think @jjraak is correct but whatever he is saying makes no difference to whether you or I will get the virus.

to paraphrase what you say @Mr_Pot

it is, what it is

 

[lucylocket61]

I think @jjraak is correct but whatever he is saying makes no difference to whether you or I will get the virus.

I have respiratory and immune system issues. Knowing my risk helps me make decisions about how to do things. And when or if to self isolate to reduce my risk.

 

[lucylocket61]

I believe that he is suggesting figures are being manipulated to express a standard of infection rate, that attempts to look like the virus is completely under control with the existing measures...

I think his suggestion is the figures are manufactured..And
The rates are far higher.

His graphs predict the rise as far higher then officially quoted...

And in tandem with data given by the CCP.. He predicted a trajectory that..
SHOULD be taking place.
And the trajectory that WOULD be given out.
IF his suspicions were correct.

Weirdly he matched almost the predicted course of data being given out by the CCP
Which he argues is the manipulated figures

so is the truth worse or better in his opinion?

 

[Mr_Pot]

I have respiratory and immune system issues. Knowing my risk helps me make decisions about how to do things. And when or if to self isolate to reduce my risk.

If I were you I would make my decisions based on the actual number of cases in the UK and in particular near you, rather than statistical analysis of the situation in China.

 

[HSSS]

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/925681#vp_3

Whether someone with diabetes succumbs to infection has a lot to do with glycemic control, diabetes duration, and diabetes-related comorbid conditions, such as heart disease, kidney disease, and stroke, as well as their age, weight, and whether they smoke.​

Chan further clarified: "We have to judge this case by case. You cannot apply it across the board to all people with diabetes. A person with well-controlled diabetes is very different from someone with poorly controlled diabetes. They have a different set of risk factors and complications."

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And an interesting commentary from a Facebook group

 

[Robinredbreast]

so is the truth worse or better in his opinion?

Tbh we really don't know at the moment and I have the feeling we wont be told the full picture, until........................
Be vigilant, be aware of what is going on, keep updated, have really good hygiene in place, ie washing hands with hot soapy water, no hugging or excessive touching of other's.
We should all hope for the best, but not to panic, opinions can be wrong.

 

[Robinredbreast]

My local supermarket, very near to my home, was heaving today. Many shelves were empty, including the liquid soap aisle and no antibacterial hand gel, even though a sign said, only two per customer, sorry for the inconvenience.
Vitamin C tablets, empty too.
A lady from our local paper was at the Hand gel aisle and we spoke, she took a photo of us both in front of the empty soap/gel aisle and was asking me questions about my views on what was going on.