Hi Paul, the way I see it is that the insulin allows us to live first & foremost of course. It is (as we all know) a vital hormone and sometimes I cringe when I hear it described as a last resort or evil personified (I know of course that it is entirely different for a type 2 condition but sometimes no distinction is made and I worry that people are left thinking it's virtually poison in & of itself). Above and beyond that, I personally choose to eat whatever I want in a manner that will (hopefully) keep me healthy. To me that is a diet that does not include very many carbs from the items you mentioned (although I do like a slice of sourdough).Not because of any holier than thou attitude but because I know that cakes & biscuits ain't good for anyone. I tend to stick to a low carb diet, again, not necessarily because I have a vendetta against carbs but I prefer my carbs to come from veg (under or over ground), from the odd slice of decent bread, some beans and so on. I agree that IF I am out and want to indulge in a bowl of pasta, then I can and that is nice. x