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Hello all, I wanted to post on several issues, but read that it was about "experiences" on certain vaccines, and all other posts would be deleted. So, I'm going to express my thoughts here. First off I am Type 1/LADA for the last 5 yrs. I realize and know this was set-off by an auto-immune disorder. However, I just consider myself as Type 1. My c-peptides as of 6.22.17 were at 0.6 (have since decreased) my GAD (65) >250.0. I fought hard for theses tests, and paid out of pocket, because I knew the doctor was wrong, and we weren't going to fix my bs levels with oral medication. My immune system destroyed my pancreas. I always joke that it's only job is to hold my body up, else I would be extremely short.

We were never sugar people, nor junk food. Mostly organic, bean loving people, so this whole thing was a shock. I corrected everything following Dr. B's diet. My A1c's are between 4.7-4.9, and I only get tested every 6 months. But no way will I ever be normal. The only thing that doctor could trace my diabetes to was familiar. Wrong, no family members have had it, and I've done the research. On an off whim, the doctor thought it might have been a reaction to a vaccination from the past. Go figure.

Being highly sensitive, with autoimmune disorder, I was told to wait. This went against my endocrinologist, but that was the same person who wouldn't listen to me to begin with. I have not quarantine to the best of my ability, I continued going to gym, meeting with scared relatives, and I have never gotten sick. I am more worried about what the vaccines can cause with people that are autoimmune compromised. It is a total cyto-storm.

I know I am going out on a limb here, and respect everyone's choice, but I worry about about other immune problems. If you question anything, even your doctor do research. Question everything! If I had followed my endo, I could of lost my eyesight, among other things.
 

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Hello all, I wanted to post on several issues, but read that it was about "experiences" on certain vaccines, and all other posts would be deleted. So, I'm going to express my thoughts here. First off I am Type 1/LADA for the last 5 yrs. I realize and know this was set-off by an auto-immune disorder. However, I just consider myself as Type 1. My c-peptides as of 6.22.17 were at 0.6 (have since decreased) my GAD (65) >250.0. I fought hard for theses tests, and paid out of pocket, because I knew the doctor was wrong, and we weren't going to fix my bs levels with oral medication. My immune system destroyed my pancreas. I always joke that it's only job is to hold my body up, else I would be extremely short.

We were never sugar people, nor junk food. Mostly organic, bean loving people, so this whole thing was a shock. I corrected everything following Dr. B's diet. My A1c's are between 4.7-4.9, and I only get tested every 6 months. But no way will I ever be normal. The only thing that doctor could trace my diabetes to was familiar. Wrong, no family members have had it, and I've done the research. On an off whim, the doctor thought it might have been a reaction to a vaccination from the past. Go figure.

Being highly sensitive, with autoimmune disorder, I was told to wait. This went against my endocrinologist, but that was the same person who wouldn't listen to me to begin with. I have not quarantine to the best of my ability, I continued going to gym, meeting with scared relatives, and I have never gotten sick. I am more worried about what the vaccines can cause with people that are autoimmune compromised. It is a total cyto-storm.

I know I am going out on a limb here, and respect everyone's choice, but I worry about about other immune problems. If you question anything, even your doctor do research. Question everything! If I had followed my endo, I could of lost my eyesight, among other things.

Hi,

Interesting observation regarding your doctor.

I was brought up on a whole food diet, any thing "fast" was manna of the devil..

A "viral infection" is one of the ideas bandied about as a possible cause for some with T1?
Lol, back in the day pre-diagnosis i'd be packed off weekday mornings up the road to an institution of learning with my peers.
All socialising & institutionalised..

I always seemed to come down with some lurgey or another that was doing the rounds with the other kids. Except paractical infestations. Head lice never liked me.. & oddly, mosquitos don't bother me much either?

Having said that gut parasites have been touted as a possible potential cause too?

I hope you find your answer.

"The truth is out there.." A fair bit of it is just cunningly crafted based on personal bias, supposition. ;)
 
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@kimlala I am not sure what the point is that you are trying to make with regard to the covid vaccination.
I too was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes as an adult. I too do not know what caused it but it is unlikely to be a vaccine because I hadn't had one for years before my diagnosis and wouldn't take an "off the whim" comment as a definitive cause. As @Jaylee says, a common hypothesis is it may be triggered by a viral infection and I definitely had one of those. But. to be honest, I see no value for me to dwell on the cause - I focus my attention on living with the condition (and I mean "living" rather than surviving by restricting my life) and managing my whole health including diabetes and mental health to the best of my abilities.

Whilst the death of my insulin producing cells resulted from an over active immune system, I do not consider myself "highly sensitive" and don't really think of myself as having an autoimmune disorder - I see that it has killed off the Islets of Langerhan but stopped there, With this in mind, I had no reservation about having the covid vaccination (if that is the point you are making) - I would rather take the risk of a vaccine side effect (of which the only one was a reduced blood sugar, so far) that catching covid.
 
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I always scratch my head when people say things like 'a virus caused my T1' or 'stress caused my T2'.

Everyone gets viruses, and everyone gets stressed. They are part of life.

The way I see it, if a virus (or stress, or vaccine, or all three) 'triggers' a health condition, then that health condition was waiting in the wings already, waiting to be triggered. A virus may have done it, but then so could any one of fifty other things, from a new job, to moving house, to loss of a parent, another health condition, and so on. Many people experience those things and don't develop T1, so the problem wasn't necessarily the virus, it was the autoimmune issue waiting, in the background, for the trigger.

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there is maybe not only one cause to getting type 1 diabetes ........

there are a lot of pros and cons in the arguments

BUT if one gets the Covid-19 virus infection our blood glucose will probably skyrocket, the first week most of the severely infected are not dangerously ill, but it seems the immune-defending system then start to over react so much that inflammation in the body goes amok, with swelling of the tissue and causing more infections and also ending up with dead cells , so that the oxygen can't be up taken as easily as before the disease , so people end up getting a lot of steroids to help this reaction which also spikes the blood glucose further and these people will some times be needing help from a ventilator/respirator, which also do a lot of damage to already sick lungs.

This is the scenery opposing the vaccines.. and we do not know if we are in the group becoming severely ill from the Covid-19 disease..

Guess we all individually have to take the choice... there is not one true answer here, it is a dilemma .. and will remain a dilemma until we can specifically rule out that we will be severely hit...or will have to feel the elephant stand on our chest
 
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I too worry about developing other autoimmune conditions and because of it so far haven’t had covit vaccine yet.

I also have adult onset type 1 for about 5 years, also have positive thyroid antibody but subclinical and gluten intolerant. I just do not want to take any chance on increasing the risk on getting other conditions. If I develop other medical conditions after taking this vaccine (not thoroughly tested), the relationship will never be established but I know I will think the vaccine might be one of the tiggers. Luckily I don’t have the fear of covit. So I just can’t see the benefit for myself of taking the vaccine, but made to feel morally guilty for not taking it .... but same way other people will not understand or care much how I feel about my medical conditions or what is like
 

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I too worry about developing other autoimmune conditions and because of it so far haven’t had covit vaccine yet.

I also have adult onset type 1 for about 5 years, also have positive thyroid antibody but subclinical and gluten intolerant. I just do not want to take any chance on increasing the risk on getting other conditions. If I develop other medical conditions after taking this vaccine (not thoroughly tested), the relationship will never be established but I know I will think the vaccine might be one of the tiggers. Luckily I don’t have the fear of covit. So I just can’t see the benefit for myself of taking the vaccine, but made to feel morally guilty for not taking it .... but same way other people will not understand or care much how I feel about my medical conditions or what is like
Why are you worried about developing further autoimmune conditions from taking the vaccine, though?
 

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The causes of type 1 diabetes or other autoimmune diseases are unknown. Vaccines are listed as one of the possible causes for type 1 diabetes. If you have one autoimmune disease, you are more likely to get other autoimmune diseases (and I feel i am with higher risk) This vaccine is quickly approved as emergency measure. I basically weigh theses against my fear level for covit

I only speak for myself. For people who fear covit, I feel they should definitely take it and it is a good thing for overall population
 
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The causes of type 1 diabetes or other autoimmune diseases are unknown. Vaccines are listed as one of the possible causes for type 1 diabetes. If you have one autoimmune disease, you are more likely to get other autoimmune diseases (and I feel i am with higher risk) This vaccine is quickly approved as emergency measure. I basically weigh theses against my fear level for covit

I only speak for myself. For people who fear covit, I feel they should definitely take it and it is a good thing for overall population
I’ve not seen that information. Where are Vaccines cited as a possible cause of Type 1 Diabetes?
 
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The causes of type 1 diabetes or other autoimmune diseases are unknown. Vaccines are listed as one of the possible causes for type 1 diabetes. If you have one autoimmune disease, you are more likely to get other autoimmune diseases (and I feel i am with higher risk) This vaccine is quickly approved as emergency measure. I basically weigh theses against my fear level for covit

I only speak for myself. For people who fear covit, I feel they should definitely take it and it is a good thing for overall population
I have had the vaccine, but if I had had the same medical history as you I would have decided against it too, for the same reasons as you.
 
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We all know the cause of autoimmune diseases is not known but e.g. this site diabetes.co.uk do mention vaccination as one of several possible causes for type 1 diabetes. I have seen a few other sites mentioning it. But I guess there are huge pressures to encourage vaccines and discourage the worries on vaccines at the moment

Overall Its just based on my personal feelings and worries comparing the risk and impact of getting other autoimmune conditions v getting covit.
 

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I already have 4 autoimmune conditions in addition to my type 1 diabetes, I believe I have others that are not diagnosed yet as well. My mum also has 4 autoimmune conditions, neither of us had any hesitation in getting our vaccines. I'd rather have an autoimmune condition than be dead tbh.
 

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It is not per-say one vaccine, it is what is in the vaccines, not just covid vaccines. Some people are highly sensitive to mercury, and other components of the vaccine. Such as; polyethylene glycol. What is polyethylene glycol and why is it in some COVID vaccines? | wtsp.com
(Pfizer and Moderna)Allergic reactions are common, some don't show-up for years, under autoimmune issues. I am highly allergic to food colourings, and had to delete it years ago. Also, I noticed a change in my child's ADHD once I removed it. Maybe, it was just a coincidence.

COVID-19 Vaccines for People with Allergies | CDC
J&J also contains polyethylene glycol.

In respect to all, it is everyone's personal choice. I like having all info so I can make an educated decision on what is best for me. Reminds me of how everyone thought low-carb diet was ridiculous (not that long ago). American Diabetes Ass. snickered about low-carb, "just up your insulin and eat what you want" I was told.
 
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Yes, the vaccine was approved for emergency use only, meaning that it was not even tested the required amount of time, usually 7-10 yrs. I also have several other autoimmune issues, they seem to go together. That being said, I understand the fear of the virus that people have. It is scary, and I see your point. Thanks
 

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It is not per-say one vaccine, it is what is in the vaccines, not just covid vaccines. Some people are highly sensitive to mercury, and other components of the vaccine.

Could you please provide reputable evidence for your claim that the covid vaccines contain mercury.
Thank you.
 

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Yes, the vaccine was approved for emergency use only, meaning that it was not even tested the required amount of time, usually 7-10 yrs. I also have several other autoimmune issues, they seem to go together. That being said, I understand the fear of the virus that people have. It is scary, and I see your point. Thanks
I’m not sure that is what that means, actually. As far as I know, emergency use vaccines and “normal” vaccines go under the same testing. Whereas the bureaucratic processes which follow the testing are different.
 

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I understand the fear of the virus that people have. It is scary, and I see your point. Thanks

For myself, I am not in the slightest afraid of covid.
I have been vaccinated, and find the extensive and constantly increasing evidence of the vaccine’s efficacy very reassuring.

however, I feel deeply for those who are unable to access the vaccine, or who are needlessly scared off it, when the risks from the vaccine are minuscule compared with the risks from the covid virus.
 
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To add to the list above: those people whose pre-existing medical conditions mean that the Covid vaccine does not work for them. For example, in people with certain blood cancers the first dose of vaccine is estimated to give only 8% protection rising to 15% on the second vaccination. I/we need to think of these people when considering whether or not to be vaccinated. Fortunately 40 million people in the UK agree.
 
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Could you please provide reputable evidence for your claim that the covid vaccines contain mercury.
Thank you.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/specific-groups/allergies.html
I posted it above. Also, look under VAERS (all doctors are suppose to enter all adverse reactions), subtitle: Adverse reactions, next drug company. VAERS is tricky, but the link above is CDC. Read through article above it talks about allergic reactions. Mercury is also listed as Thimerosal. Thimerosal and Vaccines | Vaccine Safety | CDC
This article talks specifically about mercury. With any vaccine, be at the doctor's office, drug-store, random pop-up vaccine sights, you have the right to ask for the pamphlet that list the ingredients of the vaccine. The mRNA is a little different, it is not clearly stated.