What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

[gennepher]

@gennepher my happiness is when 15 year old Archie walks into the bedroom for a cuddle because I know that he is with us for one more day. My first cup of coffee in the morning also makes me happy, and then the morning dog walk. Although I must admit that sometimes the thought of the morning dog walk does not fill me with joy (especially when it is raining) but once I am walking around the park I feel so relaxed and happy.

Great @Krystyna23040
Archie is happy waking up as well and seeing you!
Outdoors is always good even if a trifle cold and wet!

 

[jjraak]

You did brilliantly in hospital and it was really good that the other T2s listened to you and were interested in getting better blood sugar control.and

I agree that aiming for very low scores is highly likely to be counter productive to a happier healthy life. I would love to have fasting levels in the 4s but know that my body is determined to be in the 5s - so just accept it now.

Thank you @Krystyna23040 .

It was the non understanding that hit me

I presume it was the doctor directed eatwell pyramid they chose at home, to mange diet

But hospital protocol was Over 10 mmol and it was insulin injected, which caused some consternation.

I simply began by saying what most likely caused the rise , food wise and how they could possible avoid the injection next time

And bingo, one avoided injection provided any credentials I needed, that I had 'some' understanding of the issue

Bearing in mind, both had major trauma, broken pelvis, in the main, plus associated damage, so other factors at play as well as T2D

But, yes it began on what not to eat, if possible
(Twas a limited menu, and an extended stay, very monotonous )

And quickly expanded to become a regular topic.
And odd but thinking it through, unsurprisingly, I seemed to be the font of knowledge for many nurses, thanks to DCUK, on best ways to prick for testing .

Without wishing to seem rude, (the nurses skills were so wide spread,)
it was stab & go for some.

A suggestion to focus on sides not centre or tip, elicited a grateful response..
And rubbing or warming the fingers for one or two that struggled to provide sufficient blood, made life easier for all involved.

Not rocket science for the many on here, but indicative of the lack/indifference for & from sufferers and nurse training, in respect to T2D, sadly.

I hope, but doubt the seed laid will grow once home, but who knows.

We can but pray.

 

[dunelm]

A great mountain ridge @dunelm
I hope you manage to acquire more space for art.

Thank you @gennepher. It’s a bit of a squeeze here at present but I have cordoned off a corner of the dining room to be going on with.

 

[alf_Josiah]

Thank you @Krystyna23040 .





Without wishing to seem rude, (the nurses skills were so wide spread,)
it was stab & go for some.

A suggestion to focus on sides not centre or tip, elicited a grateful response..
And rubbing or warming the fingers for one or two that struggled to provide sufficient blood, made life easier for all involved.

Not rocket science for the many on here, but indicative of the lack/indifference for & from sufferers and nurse training, in respect to T2D, sadly.
.

My circumstances are different to most, but bitter experience has taught me to ignore anything a “diabetic nurse” tells me, so much conflicting advice, poor training etc, etc. But I am lucky I have access to the hospital diabetic consultants who seem to be more experienced.
My mantra with nurses is to nod, smile sweetly and ignore, hospitable diabetic nurses and GP nurses.

 

[lindisfel]

So sorry to read that and hope things have improved. Obvious question is have you done an LFT?

I had something similar four days ago but it was 6 Laxido in two days.
D.

 

[Mrs T 123]

5.4 for me this morning - enjoy what is left of your weekend folks!

 

[True Blue]

My circumstances are different to most, but bitter experience has taught me to ignore anything a “diabetic nurse” tells me, so much conflicting advice, poor training etc, etc. But I am lucky I have access to the hospital diabetic consultants who seem to be more experienced.
My mantra with nurses is to nod, smile sweetly and ignore, hospitable diabetic nurses and GP nurses.

Hello @alf_Josiah The science of type 2 diabetes seems to be unclear, which is surprising given the huge cost to the NHS that is reported. I'm fortunate in attending a large GP practice which claims diabetes as one of its specialisms. But even here strange outcomes occur. For example the No. 2 senior partner told me that it is "quite unnecessary" for me to check my BG on a daily basis. Hello? Did you not get the memo?

 

[Krystyna23040]

@jjraak and @True Blue That is really appalling. You would think that the 'experts' ought to be more clued-up than us, but unfortunately it is often the other way round.

 

[Jojo85]

Good morning!

5.7 fbg @ 6.30am
Hope everyone has a fabulous day and week!

 

[jjraak]

I had something similar four days ago but it was 6 Laxido in two days.
D.

I take one sachet a day due to other meds

6 in 2 day's ..doesn't best thinking about

 

[jjraak]

Hello @Krystyna23040 This website advises that regular repeated BG readings of below 7.0 mmo/lt would likely indicate an HbA1c value of below 42 mmo/mol. At this controlled level of BG there is much reduced risk of diabetes being a cause or contributing factor to major illness, advises this website. I think that is as good as it gets, for us Type Twos.

Yep that is my take on it too

Just in case some haven't read this.
https://www.bloodsugar101.com/must-you-deteriorate
Outlines nicely @True Blue point.

It's is in my signature if needed at later date

As I read it an average reading under 8mmol for the meter was desirable

The microscopic damage is believed to begin above that.

A bit like sunbathing,
The spikes we get if lowered asap, cause similar level of damage internally, that we might see externally to our skins of sunbathing, using correct factor and sensible time in the shade , etc.

The wanton ignoring of the signs and from my more recent experience, simply adhering to the SAD and staying close to 10 almost permanently and certainly above 8 IS the danger, and where the damage begins to impact at higher rate..

Akin to ignoring UV & Heat warnings, and sunbathing with no protection, hat or shade..

A far higher risk of serious conditions arising

So to have the spikes over 8 for short times is almost unavoidable 24/7 for many.
(Who hasn't been tempted or gone off piste at one time or another )

But to run above that for extended periods.?

That to my mind fits the 'Degeneritive' nature of
T2D, that we all hear so much about.
'its progressive nature ' and it seems there's little those who choose to eat SAD, can really do about it.

WE, Hopefully, on the other have a decent chance of keeping the worst at bay..or so I
believe deep on my heart

 

[jjraak]

@jjraak and @True Blue That is really appalling. You would think that the 'experts' ought to be more clued-up than us, but unfortunately it is often the other way round.

Agree, that is how I'd expect it to be, too.

However I think realistically, we do have to become experts on ourselves and our ailments

I'm happy to spend the time exploring new treatments, new diets, as I'm sure many of us have.

Time ill afforded to many H/C professionals.

But progress is being made when those treating make time to listen to those being treated., It seems.

Doffs a cap to Dr Unwin.

We're getting there, but for now I say let's carry on being our own experts where possible

 

[True Blue]

Morning all.

Brmm Brmm, The happy sound of a marine diesel firing on all cylinders as its new battery cranks the engine. Looks like a sunny but windy day ahead. Thinking about hosing off bird poo. Oh the joys of boating!

FBG 7.0 mmo/lt at 0645.

Have a great day.

 

[karen8967]

Woke to a 3.2 treated and now 4.4

 

[gennepher]

Woke to a 3.2 treated and now 4.4 View attachment 53150

Hugs @karen8967 for the low Fbg

 

[gennepher]

Fbg 6.8

I am doing a 'here' when I am meant to be 'there' today.
So, bear that in mind for my 'creative' this morning...
I used an iPastel I started ages ago, but it went downhill...
I had to put it in Procreate to do Popeye, but the pixels refused to co-operate...
Good luck if you can find him...
Now, I need to wrap up, and oilskins against the weather outside...
If I survive I will be back later.
If not, who knows where the wind will take me...

 

[Krystyna23040]

Agree, that is how I'd expect it to be, too.

However I think realistically, we do have to become experts on ourselves and our ailments

I'm happy to spend the time exploring new treatments, new diets, as I'm sure many of us have.

Time ill afforded to many H/C professionals.

But progress is being made when those treating make time to listen to those being treated., It seems.

Doffs a cap to Dr Unwin.

We're getting there, but for now I say let's carry on being our own experts where possible

Yes, I do agree - especially as it is much more complex than 'one size fits all '. No doctor/diabetes nurse is ever going to have the time or resources to be able to work out the most effective lifestyle for us individually. We do have the time to try different things and assess their effectiveness.

 

[Krystyna23040]

Woke to a 3.2 treated and now 4.4 View attachment 53150

A hug for your low fbg and so pleased that you sorted it quickly.. The nutrition label was really funny.

 

[Krystyna23040]

Fbg 6.8

I am doing a 'here' when I am meant to be 'there' today.
So, bear that in mind for my 'creative' this morning...
I used an iPastel I started ages ago, but it went downhill...
I had to put it in Procreate to do Popeye, but the pixels refused to co-operate...
Good luck if you can find him...
Now, I need to wrap up, and oilskins against the weather outside...
If I survive I will be back later.
If not, who knows where the wind will take me...

View attachment 53151

@gennepher hope you are ok in the wild weather in your area and the oilskins keep you dry. Predictive text inserted pumpkins but they definitely wouldn't keep you dry.

 

[Krystyna23040]

5.6 this morning. Blood sugars much more normal yesterday, which is a relief.

It is my sister's husbands funeral today - so a really sad day.