Another newbie seeking help

ruby65

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I have recently been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and have an appt at my GP diabetic clinic in a few weeks time.
I am not surprised by the diagnosis as I have had impaired glucose tolerance for 2 years and have a strong family history of diabetes. Because of this I do exercise and generally eat a healthy diet but my main problems have been tiredness and a constant hunger. My tiredness, even after a good nights sleep have impacted on my ability to exercise regularly. My huge appetite has meant weight gain and am now overweight but not obese.
I feel disappointed with myself as I had all the warning signs yet despite my best efforts I have now been diagnosed and I wonder how on earth I am going to be able to control my blood sugar levels in order to avoid any long term complications.
I would welcome any advice as to what is likely to happen at my first diabetic appointment and any tips for a very confused newbie. However, I must say in the nicest possible way - I would rather not be here - if you understand my meaning!
 

daisy1

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Hi Ruby and welcome to the forum :) Some members will be along soon to tell you what they remember of their first appointment.

At mine, first of all they took my HbA1c which is not often possible in the surgery itself but mine had the machine. The endo measured and weighed me, then looked closely at my feet. She told me to write her a monthly day's record of what I ate and my levels before meals and 2 hours after. She told me to eat carbs at each meal, and there I have found that it is better for my levels if I don't. I eat 50g carbs a day but other people eat less, or more. You will find out, by testing, which is the best for you. She also took my BP and my medical history including all medications I am taking. She arranged me an appointment with a dietician which actually turned out to be no use at all. She didn't give me any medication at first, but did later. We fixed another appointment for 3 months later. Then the nurse gave me a testing kit and showed me how to test. I came out of there feeling happier than when I went in.

I didn't have the benefit of this information as I found this forum a long time after I was diagnosed. But this information should help you in your control of your levels. Ask as many questions as you like as there is always someone wanting to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Helenababe

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Hi 'ruby' and welcome.

On 'Greetings and Introductions' at the top, there's a thread called 'Questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.' Hope this helps. :)

Helena
 

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My first appointment, we discussed what the readings from blood tests meant and was advised about taking my metformin. I has blood pressure done, I was weighed and waist measured too. At the next check up I had my toes tickled too. I was advised about appointments being made for eye checks too. It was a diabetic nurse so she had more time to explain things so always ask!
 

ruby65

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Thanks to your help. I found the appointment very much went as mentioned above. However, no mention was made at all, either by nurse or doctor re blood glucose testing. Obviously if I wish to control my blood sugar levels I need to know what they are. I understand the cost is not the meter but the strips and would welcome any advice on which glucometer/strips are the best value and quality.

I have another appointment in over a week following another blood test. Put on highest dose of simvastatin ie 80mg each night and commenced on Ramipril 1.25mg once a day for my blood pressure. Not started on Metformin as doctor wanted to see the result of my HbA1c first.

Have an appt for eye screening and the dietician...but my problem is I love bread & pasta.......have already given up rice but how to substitute the others?
 

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ruby
If you want to test your own Blood glucose, you are most likely to have to pay for your own supplies as the NHS, don't support self monitoring by T2s. However, I wouldn't be happy myself if I didn't test daily.
There's a fairly new meter system for sale at Amazon, which has much cheaper "disposables" than most systems. I've just ordered it and will post on how i find it, when I've evaluated it.
As to diet
you will probably find that most starchy foods push the Blood glucose level up. I eat Very low carb and keep my blood glucose at near NORMAL levels [about 5] at all times that way.
That's not to say I don't occasionally eat a TINY portion of rice or potatoes. Vivaldi potatoes have less starch than other varieties and are delicious. Burgen bread has less starch than "normal" bread. it's tasty too.
If you look through the diet threads on this forum, you'll find ideas for substituting for hte foods you like. just remember Healthy wholegrains Aren't.
Hana
 

ruby65

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Thanks for your advice Hanadr will certainly look at the diet threads.

My first HbA1c was 6.3% which is quite good I feel. I also produced a urine sample at my first appointment, the dipstick test was normal but the nurse said she would send my urine sample for lab testing but not sure what test. I have now been asked by my GP surgery to provide two more urine samples a week apart. However, I am not sure what these tests are for and when I asked the receptionist she was not very helpful. Does anyone have any idea what these extra urine tests are for?

As for diet I am aiming to cut my carbs but do not want to increase fats too much as my fasting lipids were 5.7 and I have been on statins for years. GP has just increased my simvastatin to 80mg daily.

I have tried Burgen bread before and it is tasty....thanks for the tip
 

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Hi Ruby and welcome! :D

I'm newly diagnosed too and still learning fast but you'll get some good advice on this site from a nice bunch of fellow Diabetics! :wink:
I ordered the SD codefree meter and recieved it last week from eBay and have compared it to the meter my GP gave me(Good meter but not many strips prescribed) and so far so good with the readings being different by less than only 1mmol consistently and along with the fact the strips are only £4.99 for a box of 50!! :mrgreen:
I'd reccommend it personally.

Paul