I have been looking into psoriasis and its links with diabetes. How many of you have it and what type are you?
psoriasis type 1 or 2?
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I didn't know there was a link but I have psoriasis on my scalp,elbows and knees and to be honest I'm not sure what type I am and I am currently waiting to see an endo and diabetes specialist as since diagnosis and meds 2 months ago my BG's have doubled and now the GP is at a loss and is refering me to the above specialists at the hospital.
The nurse diagnosed me as type 2 based on my age alone as I'm 36
The nurse diagnosed me as type 2 based on my age alone as I'm 36
Hi!
I'm type 1, don't have any psoriasis on my skin to speak of but do have rather bad psoriasis arthritis.
I guess the connection is that both D1 and P are autoimmune diseases, think that if you have one a-i you have a bigger risk of developing another.
I'm type 1, don't have any psoriasis on my skin to speak of but do have rather bad psoriasis arthritis.
I guess the connection is that both D1 and P are autoimmune diseases, think that if you have one a-i you have a bigger risk of developing another.
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I'm type 2, having had impaired glucose tolerance for 8 years before being diagnosed. I've had psoriasis since childhood - no one else in my family has ever had psoriasis.
fenix92. from what i have read yes, if you have one your more than likely to develope the other. I have noticed with my psoriasis that it reacts to my sugar levels.
I have had patches of psoriasis on my legs and elbows for many years, however, shortly before I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, I developed unpleasant psoriasis on my fingers especially my finger tips. These do fissure down to the dermis so can be quite painful. As I use my hands all the time for my work this is proving to be a bit of a problem.
All the doctors I have seen, reject any connection to diabetes. I had the psoriasis for over 20 years in small patches on legs and elbows, but this was no trouble to me. Now it has appeared on my finger tips this is quite a problem. I feel it is connected to my diabetes.
All the doctors I have seen, reject any connection to diabetes. I had the psoriasis for over 20 years in small patches on legs and elbows, but this was no trouble to me. Now it has appeared on my finger tips this is quite a problem. I feel it is connected to my diabetes.
My mum has Psoriasis, she got it when I was born 31 years ago, stress makes it worse, at its worst point it was everywhere you can imagine, but she doesnt have Diabetes.
Im the one with the Diabetes, I have dry skin but nothing like Psoriasis, although mine is due to my Thyroid.
Im the one with the Diabetes, I have dry skin but nothing like Psoriasis, although mine is due to my Thyroid.
Hi Mistee,
I am T1 I had it years ago on my scalp pretty bad. But havent had it since!! I think It was while Ive been T1 and I have thyroid probs too.
I am T1 I had it years ago on my scalp pretty bad. But havent had it since!! I think It was while Ive been T1 and I have thyroid probs too.
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I am T2,I started with psoriasis at 18 - 32 years ago - I had it all over my body and in the 80's spent 2 6 week stints in hospital getting it treated - not sure if they do this now but being in hospital for 6 weeks as a young person who isn't ill is very depressing!
It never really cleared up and always had it all over my arms and legs and some other more delicate places - I always counted my blessings as I never got it on my face though had it all over my scalp.
years later I developed psoriasis arthritis in my knees now have it most of my joints, just before daignosis of T2 my GP diagnosed pustular psoriasis - that was really nasty - like big infected boils all over my body - as soon as I got my bs under control that went away and even though I still have large patches of psoriasis on my arms it is now the best it''s ever been. For the first time in over 30 years I now feel I can bare my legs in summer still have the arthritis though
It never really cleared up and always had it all over my arms and legs and some other more delicate places - I always counted my blessings as I never got it on my face though had it all over my scalp.
years later I developed psoriasis arthritis in my knees now have it most of my joints, just before daignosis of T2 my GP diagnosed pustular psoriasis - that was really nasty - like big infected boils all over my body - as soon as I got my bs under control that went away and even though I still have large patches of psoriasis on my arms it is now the best it''s ever been. For the first time in over 30 years I now feel I can bare my legs in summer still have the arthritis though
Since my husband has been low carbing , and therefore keeping his BS levels under control his psoriasis has almost cleared up , just left with pale pink patches at the moment . He had developed rosacea a few years ago too , and this also is almost clear ..........a coincidence?
Just found this thread.
I've had psoriasis for many years, and had every treatment going to no avail. My psoriasis was widespread and horrific. Then I developed psoriatic arthritis, undiagnosed for a long time, which was debilitating and ended up with me practically bedridden and housebound. Then I was eventually diagnosed and put on methotrexate. A couple of years later I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, and then this year with Diabetes type 2.
I believe they are all linked to my immune system, but cannot get more extensive testing. due to budgetary constraints at my GP practice.
It seems like many doctors are refusing even to acknowledge this link, so lets hope there is more research done into this in the future
I've had psoriasis for many years, and had every treatment going to no avail. My psoriasis was widespread and horrific. Then I developed psoriatic arthritis, undiagnosed for a long time, which was debilitating and ended up with me practically bedridden and housebound. Then I was eventually diagnosed and put on methotrexate. A couple of years later I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, and then this year with Diabetes type 2.
I believe they are all linked to my immune system, but cannot get more extensive testing. due to budgetary constraints at my GP practice.
It seems like many doctors are refusing even to acknowledge this link, so lets hope there is more research done into this in the future
I have had psoriasis as long as i can remember i have been told it is called gutate psoriasis, i am 62 yrs of age and just been dignosed as diabetic type 2 i have never heard of a link between psoriasis and diabetes.
Connie, there isn't a proven link as far as I'm aware, just that the evidence is perhaps pointing to a 'possible' link between auto-immune disorders, of which psoriasis is one, and diabetes.
However it seems to me quite likely that if your body is attacking itself as it does in psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and hypothyroidism, perhaps it is doing the same in Diabetes. The mechanics of it all are a bit complicated, and I don't even totally understand it all myself, but it does seem reasonable to even admit that it might be a cause.
It is acknowledged however that there is a link between steroid use and diabetes, and many people who have an autoimmune arthritis have often used steroids for pain relief.
There is still an awful lot to learn about cause and effect, and let's hope further research is looking into this.
However it seems to me quite likely that if your body is attacking itself as it does in psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and hypothyroidism, perhaps it is doing the same in Diabetes. The mechanics of it all are a bit complicated, and I don't even totally understand it all myself, but it does seem reasonable to even admit that it might be a cause.
It is acknowledged however that there is a link between steroid use and diabetes, and many people who have an autoimmune arthritis have often used steroids for pain relief.
There is still an awful lot to learn about cause and effect, and let's hope further research is looking into this.
Have psoriasis and it caused a hip replacement (aided by too much sport). Much better now but think that's because I'm taking more care of myself generally and less stress rather than anything diabetes related.
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I can't believe how many other people in this world suffer with psoriasis! I developed it around 13 years of age and have suffered ever since. It's really bad on my scalp and nothing I try seems to ease it but I keep the rest of it under control with topical steroid ointments (hate them though, they make my skin go all shiny and weird). Pretty much 100% certain it was hereditary and passed down through my Mum's family from my Grandad's side. My Mum and my Aunt both suffer with it as well and Mum was in hospital for about 9 weeks when my brother was very young because it had gotten so bad.
I've learnt something new from you today, Luna. I had no idea psoriasis was an auto-immune disorder. I'm not diabetic and as far as I know, psoriasis is the only auto-immune disorder I have. I can see how there might potentially be a link between the two conditions though. Would be interesting to see more research being carried out on these kinds of conditions and their potential links.
I've learnt something new from you today, Luna. I had no idea psoriasis was an auto-immune disorder. I'm not diabetic and as far as I know, psoriasis is the only auto-immune disorder I have. I can see how there might potentially be a link between the two conditions though. Would be interesting to see more research being carried out on these kinds of conditions and their potential links.
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My wife gets slight psoriasis on her scalp from time to time and her two brothers both get it very badly all over their bodies and her older brother has even been hospitalised with it when it got properly out of control.
One of my sons has had a couple of small patches of it on his body too so I had always assumed it was genetic. Of course one should never assume though :thumbdown:
None of them are diabetic yet :thumbup:
One of my sons has had a couple of small patches of it on his body too so I had always assumed it was genetic. Of course one should never assume though :thumbdown:
None of them are diabetic yet :thumbup:
Yes Sid there is a genetic link too apparently. Great that your sons are free of diabetes though. :thumbup:
There seems to be some confusion in medical circles if psoriasis is an auto-immune disease, but my dermatologist says it is, and psoriatic arthritis definitely is...ask my rheumatologist!
Of course not everyone goes on to develop the arthritis part of psoriasis, thankfully, as I expect not everyone will go on to develop diabetes, even if the link is proven eventually.
Horrible conditions both of them, psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis - I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. :cry:
There seems to be some confusion in medical circles if psoriasis is an auto-immune disease, but my dermatologist says it is, and psoriatic arthritis definitely is...ask my rheumatologist!
Of course not everyone goes on to develop the arthritis part of psoriasis, thankfully, as I expect not everyone will go on to develop diabetes, even if the link is proven eventually.
Horrible conditions both of them, psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis - I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. :cry:
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It seems most scientists do say psoriasis is an auto-immune disease. Going back to your earlier point, it seems that it is very much linked with other auto-immune conditions:Luna21 said:
http://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(12)00462-8/abstract
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I have hypothyroid - autoimmune !
Yep ruddy psoriasis on scalp and patchy bits on body too .
They seem to flare up only when I am stressed though . :thumbdown:
Never knew 'this' was an autoimmune thing also .
Will tackle my DSN and doc with this fact .
Get it added onto my records at my next meds review .
Thanks luna21 - you have enlightened me further ! :thumbup:
Anna .
This place is a gold mine of useful information
I have hypothyroid - autoimmune !
Yep ruddy psoriasis on scalp and patchy bits on body too .
They seem to flare up only when I am stressed though . :thumbdown:
Never knew 'this' was an autoimmune thing also .
Will tackle my DSN and doc with this fact .
Get it added onto my records at my next meds review .
Thanks luna21 - you have enlightened me further ! :thumbup:
Anna .
Darn! I had a long post written, and it's disappeared into cyberspace somewhere! :***: I hope the internet gremlins get a good read of it instead!
Yes, psoriasis is autoimmune, same as hypothyroidism, so although apparently many doctors and DN's don't seem to acknowledge the link - there is definitely research going on.
It makes sense to me, that if your body is attacking it's own self as it does with psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis and hypothyroidism, then surely it's possible that us developing diabetes is also to do with our autoimmune system?
If this link could be proven then it might help our medical team to give us a better, more encompassing treatment, or so we might hope.
I take so many drugs for all my autoimmune conditions that I'm quite certain it affects my blood glucose too, but try explaining that to my DN, she looks at me like I'm making it all up. :thumbdown:
Yes, psoriasis is autoimmune, same as hypothyroidism, so although apparently many doctors and DN's don't seem to acknowledge the link - there is definitely research going on.
It makes sense to me, that if your body is attacking it's own self as it does with psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis and hypothyroidism, then surely it's possible that us developing diabetes is also to do with our autoimmune system?
If this link could be proven then it might help our medical team to give us a better, more encompassing treatment, or so we might hope.
I take so many drugs for all my autoimmune conditions that I'm quite certain it affects my blood glucose too, but try explaining that to my DN, she looks at me like I'm making it all up. :thumbdown:
