Trying to regain control

Babino1

Member
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Ok I am not perfect :(
I have been a type 2 diabetic for 3 years
My GP is an undeniable pain in the rear, (I really am stuck with him, changing is not an option at the moment), and I work long hours, with unreasonably high stress levels. Hence I didn't go for all the check, to avoid seeing him and also avoid accepting my disease I should have and lost control....completely.
My HbA1c = 11.5, I have a lot of weight to lose at least 4 stone, and I am struggling.
I am currently ill with a shoulder injury and am using this time not only to recover but to get a grip on things. I am really down at the moment in need of some support and someone to talk to who really understand what it is to be in these shoes.
I have feelings of anger denial etc...etc. all rolled into one.
I don't need sympathy I just need a bit of guidance and help. Food is a nightmare I write everything down at the moment in an on-line diary and track my blood sugars too as a record. I start the day really well but have moments where I just want to eat any old rubbish.!
 

chocoholicnomore

Well-Known Member
Messages
638
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Bambino and welcome to the forum.

You'll get loads of help, support and advice on here.

I too am really struggling with the control. I'm quite new to it but at the start the fear of complications drove me for the first 3 months. Since then however it's been a constant decline! Like you, I start every day with good intentions. I have other issues in my life at the moment and can't seem to get out of the comfort eating mode :oops:

I can't give you much guidance but you will find alot on here and other posters will give you more advice later in the day. I think the main thing is to cut down on carbs (easier said than done). Viv's modified atkins thread is a good place to start for advice on food.

The best thing about this forum is that we are all in the same shoes and can all understand the feelings and emotions involved. We are all here to support and help each other.
 

Truffle

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
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Someone who knows it all.
We are all human and I am sure that most of us have suffered with anger and denial and an unbearable craving for a diabetes free life... but just make a start. Don't try to do everything at once when you are trying to recouperated from an injury. I would start with your diet, cut out the sugar and as many carbs as you feel able to do. Have lots of little (carb free) snacks when you get the feeling that you want to eat any old rubbish. Try and go for some walks to get fresh air if you can't exercise at the moment. Talk to people - whether on this forum or friends - and share your worries. I didn't to start with and felt I was going slightly mad with all the 'What if's?' and 'What do I do's?" You should ask your doctors if they have a specialist diabetic nurse, as whilst some of us have encountered problems with them, it might be preferable to your doctor.
Stress is such a big factor in this disease that it might be time to reassess your job if at all possible - easier said than done, I know. Just take one day at a time and try and do better than the day before and soon you might be able to establish a pattern which in turn will make you more secure.
I'm sure others will answer in a while who can put it much better than me but just don't give in! :)
 

Babino1

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Thanks for the replies :)
Had a good cry ......feel a bit better now.
I will be checking the board for ideas and try to keep posting....
 

xyzzy

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Other
Treatment type
Diet only
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Undeserving authority figures of all kinds and idiots.
Hello Bambino and welcome to the forum.

Daisy will be along soon with some info but in the meantime here's what I did. It is difficult to get control with everything but it really is worth it and no one is going to be an angel all the time! I was diagnosed T2D in December last year and using the advice I found on this site I got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost 3 stone in weight too. I went to see my doctor last week and he is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left try swapping to brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend will be different to what your are told is a good diet for you follow.

Next most members would recommend you test your own blood sugar levels. Has your doctor ever given you a meter and strips? For me that was the thing that really helped to get control as you could see day by day that you were doing better. I started started with an HbA1c of 11.3 and using the low carb diet advise above and testing reduced it to 5.3 in just 3 months. Anyway some doctors do give meters and strips and some don't. It's all a bit of a post code lottery.

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

Has anyone ever explained carb counting to you? If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that can be used to help control and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 

libby52

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Hello
just try and treat each day as it comes, think positive, if you have really bad day put it behind you and start again tomorrow....I have some v bad days and other really good days aim to kep my Bg between 5 & 7 dont ysa suceed tho!!! We are all human and things happen... dont get to downhearted about ti all.
 

daisy1

Legend
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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Hi Babino and welcome to the forum :)
To help you regain control, here is some information we give to new members. Ask as many questions as you like as there is always someone who can answer you. Do please keep posting as we all want to help you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

gillianre

Active Member
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Welcome to the forum. :wave:

Don't let it get you down, we're all in the same boat. Some days as great other days are a nightmare. Once you admit to yourself that this isn't something that is going to go away you learn to control it..... most of the time!

We're a friendly bunch and are always here. :D
 

FractalFragger

Active Member
Messages
34
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
yeah im newly diagnosed and my BG levels are all over the place as im trying to find out what i can tolerate and not tolerate. but the best thing is to talk about it not just on here but to friends and family as well you'll be amazed by the support my friends and family are giving me.

dont give up and dont give in

mark
 

Babino1

Member
Messages
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Wow!
I wasn't expecting such a great response! You all are truly amazing. The information you have all provided is going to be bery helpful. I have always worried about counting carbs , but I am going to learn more about it. Am gradually beginning to make the connection I should have made three years ago. But there's no point living in the past. Thank you all will be in touch :)
 

chocoholicnomore

Well-Known Member
Messages
638
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Keep posting Bambino and let us know how you are doing.

It always helps to read success stories and I'm sure you'll be one of them!
 

claymic

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Messages
503
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Insulin
Hello & welcome
This is truly a great place.I have been diagnosed for 7 years and I am still trying to get to grips as control is not good and need to lose alot of weight too. Personally I find it difficult to control the hunger.in spite of everything we need too continue trying so please do not give up.
 

sorefeet

Newbie
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1
hi this my first time here.
i am soooooo sick of diabeties and the damage it has done to my feet and hands they ache constently and worse at night to the point where i can't sleep unless i stay awake for a couple of days straight and then take sleepers and then i sleep for 24 hours if i am lucky and then do it all over again. i have had sugars over 37 and the doctors don't know how i didn't go in a coma. then they finally put me on tabs and needles and now it goes too low i have had sugars as low as 1.4 and i had a hypo my 8 year old son who has autiusm had to ring an ambulance how much does that suck that he had to do that? he might be autistict but he knows how to check my sugar set up my needles and can actually give me my pens if i can't. what a great kid , but what a burden for him to have . being the way he is he says i don't mind dad i just love you. i am just sick of it all im actually crying now i just want it all to stop but i can't because my boys need me too much but i honestly don't know how much i can take. i am sick of living with pain , sick of living with a wife who really doesn't get it and just sick of it all. once my so called friends found out it's like they thought they could catch it or something so they are gone. i have had this for 5 years now and life doesn't seem to be easier better or anything.
anyway thanks for listening
bye
 

tree-peony

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we're here sorefeet :thumbup:

you moan all you want, and eventually, when you're moaned out, have a look around at other people's experiences and you just may find something to help.

I might be best to start a new thread so people know you're new around here :!:
 

chocoholicnomore

Well-Known Member
Messages
638
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi sorefeet and welcome to the forum.

I'm so sorry to hear your story but you must take comfort from the fact that your family love you. Your wife might not understand all the diabetes stuff but I'm sure she loves you and wants to help you if she can. Why don't you ask her to read the posts and stories on this forum? It may help her to learn more about it and be able to support you more. Having said that, nobody will understand you in the way another diabetic will and that's why this forum is so brilliant and a great help to so many of us. You will always get the support you need from the people on here. They are all so friendly and helpful and whatever you are experiencing there will be someone on here who has experienced the same thing. As for your friends, well they couldn't have been very good friends to start with and are not worth having around. A true friend is always there for you when you need them most and you will find true friends on here. I have.

You can come on here at any time and either rant or moan or complain or tell of successes or anything you want and there'll always be someone here for you.

I hope coming on to this forum has helped you to feel even just a wee bit better. Keep posting and let us know how you are doing.
 

sbrownuk1

Member
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Possibly a wee tip check your sugars as often as possible and when they are dropping low say at 5,6 or seven instead of eating anything increase your sugar checks to every half hour, to try an maintain a lower sugar level , practice this whenever possible and I guarantee your hba1c will soon drop , and you will also feel better
 

Babino1

Member
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9
@ Sorefeet,
I don't know if this helps, but my daughter has Autism too, and I have gone through the thing that you are experiencing with Diabetes... perhaps we can support each other here on the Forum :)
Keep your chin up! :wink: