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Spare a thought for diabetics who love their beef> http://www.wpri.com/dpps/entertainment/ ... gr_4323303 . How do you think that this would affect blood sugars?
sallylondon said:Spare a thought for diabetics who love their beef> http://www.wpri.com/dpps/entertainment/ ... gr_4323303 . How do you think that this would affect blood sugars?
Mmmm ............. I would have thought that a blanced diet for cattle would be grass, other vegetation and water?CarbsRok said:Cattle when reared for meat are fed a balanced diet which does contain sugar and fat, which is in all that candy.
CarbsRok said:Cattle when reared for meat are fed a balanced diet which does contain sugar and fat, which is in all that candy.
Normally it would just be bought as individual ingrediants and mixed for the feed.
Molasses is a favourite in this country.
Sheep love molasses as well.
phoenix said:I don't think that it's necessary to exaggerate. European beef isn't pumped with hormones: it's not allowed. Most is grass fed for a great deal of the year but pragmatically not all the year, or at all stages. The farmers near me keep their cattle out for most of the year, I'm sure it's cheaper that way and they aren't rich! Nevertheless , when it snows, when the ground freezes ( it dropped to -14C for a week this year ) and when there is little good grass they take them into the barns. Similarly when there's a drought in summer and the grass doesn't grow then they are still in the fields but but they give them supplemental feed.
I don't what mixtures they give them but most farmers here have a field of maize. This is chopped up in it's entirety for feed (ie all the plant, not just the kernels), they cut hay , they make silage and I'm sure they give them commercial feed as well.
It's not total grass feeding but it isn't the US feed lot system either.
In Europe, A Cow Over Hormone-Treated U.S. Beef (purely by chance interviewing a French farmer, I think the passport system applies to Europe.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =113314725
A great post Phoenix :thumbup:shop said:phoenix said:I don't think that it's necessary to exaggerate. European beef isn't pumped with hormones: it's not allowed. Most is grass fed for a great deal of the year but pragmatically not all the year, or at all stages. The farmers near me keep their cattle out for most of the year, I'm sure it's cheaper that way and they aren't rich! Nevertheless , when it snows, when the ground freezes ( it dropped to -14C for a week this year ) and when there is little good grass they take them into the barns. Similarly when there's a drought in summer and the grass doesn't grow then they are still in the fields but but they give them supplemental feed.
I don't what mixtures they give them but most farmers here have a field of maize. This is chopped up in it's entirety for feed (ie all the plant, not just the kernels), they cut hay , they make silage and I'm sure they give them commercial feed as well.
It's not total grass feeding but it isn't the US feed lot system either.
In Europe, A Cow Over Hormone-Treated U.S. Beef (purely by chance interviewing a French farmer, I think the passport system applies to Europe.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =113314725
Thats about the same as us Pheonix. We normaly would have them out at pasture through the summer. Then in winter in a barn being fed silage and corn. We had to bring ours in from pasture a few months back when it was raining so much because the field itself would have been ruined. We keep little ones in or put them in a paddock next to the house. Most farmers bring them in for winter as they need silage and hard feed.
Lucy xxx
Fraddycat said:Boro, where do you buy grass fed meat? I'm guessing not Tescos ...?
Cattle are finished all year round to maintain a regular and consistent supply therefore during the summer these cattle would be finished from 100% forage diet and our standards insist that forage must be at least 75% of the diet (winter). Forage comes in several guises, the common ones being grass, hay, silage but also whole crop cereals, maize silage's, roots and other fodder crops. Farmers grow and conserve these crops as part of their farm rotation in order to finish these cattle. Therefore there is a good nutrient supply that supports the diet even during winter months. Grain my be used for feed as long as the requirement for 75% forage is maintained.
Like beef, lamb is predominantly forage/ grass fed, but may receive supplemented feed where forage is short or unavailable.
It's not just an issue of price - grains are more efficient, and eating grains directly is even better. There simply isn't enough space to feed 7 billion people on grass-fed beef.If you are prepared to pay for it
AMBrennan said:It's not just an issue of price - grains are more efficient, and eating grains directly is even better. There simply isn't enough space to feed 7 billion people on grass-fed beef.If you are prepared to pay for it
Tescos? What is this thing? Is it like Waitrose but for poor people*?
Think of a buffalo on the Serengeti.clearviews said:... I was just commenting what the understanding of a 'natural' diet is.