cfl energy saving light bulbs

[Anonymous]

hi,
i have just recently heard some stories about energy saving cfl light bulbs that indicate they are not good for diabetics ? ahs anyone any views ,opinions or experiences about this ? we are encouraged to save electricity and i have recenlty changed all my household light bulbs to these ,now i am somewhat concerned ,is there any evidence that they can cause any problems to us ?

 

[Squire Fulwood]

It it a purely personal view but I think it is all ********. And if the Nanny software prints that I will be surprised.

 

[phoenix]

It's Rubbish (and yes I thought of a less polite word)
based on a very poor paper picked up by a Canadian TV company and 'Natural News' and filtered through facebook

If you believe Dr. Havas, that dirty electricity exacerbates diabetes, you have to do a lot more than pull your compact fluorescents; you have to get rid of you computer, phones and wifi as well. And you have to be convinced that there is some new environmental diabetes that is being called type three.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/do ... betes.html
also
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... d-science/

 

[Squire Fulwood]

There's a less polite word???

 

[noblehead]

Changed my bulbs over years ago to energy saving light, so far no damage..................yet

 

[Anonymous]

thanks guys im glad to hear its what i thought it was , bull........
where do these people get off trying to scare us !

 

[Hobs]

When CFLs were first introduced they worked at mains frequency, 50 or 60 Htz depending on your country of residence, therefore they could affect those vulnerable to lowish frequencies. However, with the more modern manufacturing procedures and electronic control circuitry, much higher frequencies are achieved and all those previously affected will not suffer.

 

[sparkyrich]

Besides, cfl's are old technology now. Try replacing them with leds. Instant full output unlike cfl's that take an age to warm up and colour rendition is better - cfl's tend to be harsh. Plus, as a bonus, electricity consumption is even lower.


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[Hobs]

Besides, cfls are old technology now. Try replacing them with leds. Instant full output unlike cfl's that take an age to warm up and colour rendition is better - cfl's tend to be harsh. Plus, as a bonus, electricity consumption is even lower.

Hopefully the present technology regarding LED's will improve for reliability and light output, because right now reliability is unpredictable and the amount per luminaire required to give good usable light output combined with a good colour rendering is not sufficient to make them commercially viable for the retrofit market.

 

[hanadr]

I'm sure that Astrology has more effect!
Hana

 

[Hobs]

I'm sure that Astrology has more effect!
Hana

Viagra certainly does :clap: ... :lol: :lol: :lol: ... 8)

 

[xorsyst]

Hopefully the present technology regarding LED's will improve for reliability and light output, because right now reliability is unpredictable and the amount per luminaire required to give good usable light output combined with a good colour rendering is not sufficient to make them commercially viable for the retrofit market.

It does vary wildly depending on which LEDs you get, but there are some excellent ones out there. The simplyled Nxtgen IIs are an almost like-for-like replacement for GU10 Halogen spotlights - in fact, some say they are better. I've got some slightly cheaper ones from amazon and they are excellent too, and so much brighter than the CFL attempts. I've also replaced the under-counter lighting with an LED-strip, which is a far superior light to the old tube lights in every way.

I haven't found a really good bayonet bulb yet. I've got some "40w-equivalent" ones that are ok for cupboards and toilets, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

 

[susanmanley]

There has been a lot of negative publicity re the new bulbs from breathing in 'bad' fumes to causing fits. There does not seem to be evidence for any of it.

Unfortunately we live in a cottage which now is more like a cave as nothing seems to light it like the old fashion bulbs did
We are still working on it. We fitted some ceiling spotlights [as our ceilings are too low for centre lights] but now cannot get anything more than a 35watt equivalent value bulb for them so darkness reigns again.
As for money saving we now have so many lights on for most of the day just to be able to see I wonder if this is working out for us.
We now have an upstairs sitting room as it is lighter during daylight hours and can even read on a good day without anything.

Any suggestions for how to increase light without great expense would be gratefully recieved

 

[petertremelling]

I'm sure they are perfectly safe. I've turned green and flash blue when my mobile rings, but the doc says its not due to the bulbs, so better sue the radar station up the road! Maybe it's the Metformin, though..................

 

[xorsyst]

We fitted some ceiling spotlights [as our ceilings are too low for centre lights] but now cannot get anything more than a 35watt equivalent value bulb for them so darkness reigns again.
Any suggestions for how to increase light without great expense would be gratefully recieved

I can recommend these:
http://www.simplyled.co.uk/GU10-LED-Nxt ... .aspx?nh=1

They are very expensive, but should last years and pay for themselves in savings, and have a 21-day no-quibbles return if you don't like the light.

 

[susanmanley]

thanks

 

[Hobs]

Unfortunately we live in a cottage which now is more like a cave as nothing seems to light it like the old fashion bulbs did
We are still working on it. We fitted some ceiling spotlights [as our ceilings are too low for centre lights] but now cannot get anything more than a 35watt equivalent value bulb for them so darkness reigns again.
As for money saving we now have so many lights on for most of the day just to be able to see I wonder if this is working out for us.
We now have an upstairs sitting room as it is lighter during daylight hours and can even read on a good day without anything.

Any suggestions for how to increase light without great expense would be gratefully received

Have you tried the tungsten halogen version of the good old standard light bulb?
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lightin ... 277/p46557
This link above is from a catalogue just to give you a visual of what is available, but if you want to order from it you should be able get their home page and ordering details. Minimum order for delivery is £10 and it is a freephone number to order. I use the 70watt version in my outside lights and each gives me the same light as the old standard 100watt bayonet cap GLS lamp (bulb) ..not an immense saving, but 30 watts is better than nothing and its a bright crisp light :thumbup:

 

[Hobs]

Oh yes and I forgot to add the average life is 2000hrs as against 1000hrs for the old standard bulb

 

[Ambersilva]

My hubby changed all our light bulbs to energy saving bulbs. The stupid things protruded their dim phallic presence beyond my light shades. Every day I moaned about not being able to see to sew or needing to switch a light on 10 minutes before I needed to enter a room. It was only when hubby realised that he was having difficulty reading by dim light that he relented and returned some of the old Tungsten bulbs and installed Halogen bulbs for key areas. We puchased some swish Halogen fittings with multi miniature bulbs for the kitchen and living room. We now have light! I heard a few weeks ago that even Halogen is on the danger list - I hope that isn't true.

Edited to remove typo

 

[susanmanley]

It is they have already withdraw some