Newly Diagnosed

Sashington

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Hello my new friends,
Recently diagnosed with type 2, was losing weight for over a year and wondered why, no lifestyle changes, so i went for some blood tests, all was ok, liver, thyroid, cholesterol etc, except blood sugar was high so did a fasting test. Result was 12.
Took my second Metformin 500mg today, one a day for a week then 2 a day. Also Simvastatin 40mg once a day.
Monitored my sugar levels today for the first time and it ranged from 11.7 to 15.8. This worried me a lot last night and i went to bed feeling a bit depressed, i am never depressed, usually jump out of bed happy and jump back in happy. Is this normal ?

Can anybody give me some idea how long it takes for the tablets to take effect so i can see my levels dropping, is it weeks or months? Any tips for a noob?

Thanks guys, looking forward to hearing from somebody :)
 
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Sashington said:
Hello my new friends,
Recently diagnosed with type 2, was losing weight for over a year and wondered why, no lifestyle changes, so i went for some blood tests, all was ok, liver, thyroid, cholesterol etc, except blood sugar was high so did a fasting test. Result was 12.
Took my second Metformin 500mg today, one a day for a week then 2 a day. Also Simvastatin 40mg once a day.
Monitored my sugar levels today for the first time and it ranged from 11.7 to 15.8. This worried me a lot last night and i went to bed feeling a bit depressed, i am never depressed, usually jump out of bed happy and jump back in happy. Is this normal ?

Can anybody give me some idea how long it takes for the tablets to take effect so i can see my levels dropping, is it weeks or months? Any tips for a noob?

Thanks guys, looking forward to hearing from somebody :)

Hi Sahington!

Don't get too worried about your levels in the first week or so! In fact when I started I didn't test for about 3 weeks! Concentrate on the positives. You are now getting treatment for this disease and you can get yourself to a position where you feel well and also on control of your destiny! (I'm still on the road to this!) The others will, no doubt be along very soon with loads of advice so I won't try and give you any other than to say: I presume you have stopped eating sugary things? The next step many of us take is to really, really reduce eating carbs - This is the bit I find hard! Get rid of the white breas, pasta, rice and replace what you do eat with brown stuff. Watch what fruit you eat, especially bananas! Cut down on the booze (carbs and sugar!) and do some exercise!
You'll find loads of help on here int eh articles and loads of very knowledgable people with years of experience as well!

Keep going!

SS
 

Yorksman

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In most people, those high levels drop a lot once they understand what foods are causing it. Sweet sugary bars are obvious but things like white bread are just as bad. I'm still learning and have yet to find a porridge that doesn't spike me. I tried adding oat bran which is supposed to help. It tasted very nice but then I got the highest reading I have ever had at breakfast.

I knw what foods suit me but I am still looking for things to broaded my range. There are some very strange surprises. Keep heart, you'll learn over the weeks.
 

daisy1

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Hi Sashington and welcome to the forum :)

I think you will find this information which we give to new members to be useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Paul_c

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Sashington said:
Hello my new friends,
Recently diagnosed with type 2, was losing weight for over a year and wondered why, no lifestyle changes, so i went for some blood tests, all was ok, liver, thyroid, cholesterol etc, except blood sugar was high so did a fasting test. Result was 12.
Took my second Metformin 500mg today, one a day for a week then 2 a day. Also Simvastatin 40mg once a day.
Monitored my sugar levels today for the first time and it ranged from 11.7 to 15.8. This worried me a lot last night and i went to bed feeling a bit depressed, i am never depressed, usually jump out of bed happy and jump back in happy. Is this normal ?

Can anybody give me some idea how long it takes for the tablets to take effect so i can see my levels dropping, is it weeks or months? Any tips for a noob?

Thanks guys, looking forward to hearing from somebody :)

dietary changes have a faster effect than just going on metformin alone... you need to investigate cutting right back on your carbohydrate intake..
 

smidge

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1,761
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hey Sashington!

As the others have said, you need to manage the carbs you eat. It is not unusual to have high BGs in the first few weeks after diagnosis, but lowering your carb intake and choosing slower acting carbs should reduce this fairly quickly. Metformin should help by allowing your cells to take up and use more of the insulin you produce. It is not a magic bullet, though and will have minimal impact on your BG without dietary changes. Exercise will also probably help.

Now, my concerns for you. You seem to have been diagnosed Type 2 without any tests to rule out LADA. LADA is a slow-onset form of Type 1 in adults. Initially, it presents like Type 2, but it cannot be controlled mid to long term on oral medication - it is progressive and needs insulin treatment. It is often misdiagnosed as Type 2. The fact that you have been losing weight without trying could point to your diabetes being LADA - Type 2s often put on weight in the lead up to their diagnosis, whereas LADAs often lose weight.

See how you go over the next few weeks, but if your BGs don't start to drop, go back to your doctor and ask for a GAD antibody test and a c-peptide test. The GAD test looks for antibodoies which, if present, are indicative of a form of Type 1. The c-peptide test checks how much insulin you are actually producing - if it's high that usually indicates Type 2, but if it is low, that indicates Type 1.

Take care

Smidge
 

Osidge

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Sashington

You can find more information on LADA and Type 1.5 at: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_lada.html

I would, however, take one thing at a time and concentrate on dietary changes, medication and a good exercise regime to see whether that combination will eventually lower your BS levels. Your next HbA1c should let you know how things are doing and then, if necessary, consider the issue raised by Smidge. Daisy has give you some good advice and information to assist your journey with diabetes.

Take care

Doug
 

Sashington

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Thanks guys for al the replies, i really appreciate it.
I have my first appointment on the 11th february and have decided just to take my medications and educate myself in the meantime, I will stop the obvious sugars but to be honest i will still be taking the carbs until then, I find i am getting a bit stressed taking all this in at the moment, so i aint going to be taking any Blood levels until the 11th. Yesterday i thought i had done good with a high fibre breakfast, wholemeal sandwich for lunch and some of them Riveta thins at teatime for a snack, i took my blood levels a couple of hours later and they were 22.1, i was gutted and went to bed feeling really fed up with the whole thing. This was the highest reading i have ever had.
 

Osidge

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Sashington

If your blood sugars continue at that high level you would be advised to either contact you diabetic nurse/GP or go to A & E as soon as possible and not wait for your appointment.

Trying to help and support

Doug
 

Daibell

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Hi. I agree with Osidge. If your sugars don't go down or continue to rise and you are young e.g. under 30'ish and not overweight then LADA is always a possibility. Try not to get depressed as you are not alone with either T1 or T2. Just consider the advice you've been given, try the low-carb approach using the meter and then you are in control of what to do next.