Problem with friend over my diabetes

Lovelylivpet

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Your friend dosn't understand, but she does'nt have to because she isn't diabetic.

I think you were very mature about it, and took the right approach. It wouldn't hurt to have a little chocolate, but it really depends on your diabetes reaction. It may be hugly affective and put your BG levels hight for days. Although, some people can get it down. I think you made the right choice. Don't worry your friend will come around :)
 

titchy_lou

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Thanks for all your input, everyone. I'm still thinking about this a lot, especially as today was my cousins weddings :)

I'm starting to think my friend has taken the 'oh that'll never happen to you' attitude, when I've explained what happened to my grandad. However, my friend struggles with a thyroid problem, and I really do feel like turning this around a bit..what if I said to her to stop taking her tablets for a day, and that she'd be ok? I think she might react hot I've reacted...

Wish I could just get this sorted now, I absolutely hate having people annoyed with me


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eveshamgal

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GraceK said:
eveshamgal said:
izzzi said:
Hi, Titchy_lou , :)

I would think your friend will soon come to you with a full apology of being a little selfish and thoughtless.

Hopefully this could be just a little tiff or something like it.

Your friend may also ask you for alternative ideas for that weekend.

I agree with you in total and Bath has many great shops and beautiful places to visit.

It is a bit like asking a ex-alcoholic to come to a pi** up in a brewery.

Anyway a friend should be one of the "nicest things" things you have.

Roy. :)

Why should the bride to be change HER plans for HER hen night? Jesus, if you can't be selfish when you are getting married when can you be??

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The bride isn't being asked to change HER plans as far as I can see. And why does getting married have to mean being selfish? Is that a new tradition or something?

Eurgh!!!! I already explained this. The post I quoted suggested that the bride could consider changing her plans. I never said that's what the OP said.

And isn't your wedding supposed to be about you celebrating the happiest time of your life? I'd say it's always been the case that brides are selfish in regards to their weddings. Long may it continue!!

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I've read this thread with interest.
I'm type 2 so realise you're position is somewhat more precarious here.
But, if it was me I would attend whatever she decided and refrain from any potentially dangerous consumption and use the art of conversation to my advantage.
I hope you find an amicable solution, its a shame for anyone to fall out over this, whatever the outcome:)
 

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eveshamgal said:
GraceK said:
eveshamgal said:
izzzi said:
Hi, Titchy_lou , :)

I would think your friend will soon come to you with a full apology of being a little selfish and thoughtless.

Hopefully this could be just a little tiff or something like it.

Your friend may also ask you for alternative ideas for that weekend.

I agree with you in total and Bath has many great shops and beautiful places to visit.

It is a bit like asking a ex-alcoholic to come to a pi** up in a brewery.

Anyway a friend should be one of the "nicest things" things you have.

Roy. :)

Why should the bride to be change HER plans for HER hen night? Jesus, if you can't be selfish when you are getting married when can you be??

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The bride isn't being asked to change HER plans as far as I can see. And why does getting married have to mean being selfish? Is that a new tradition or something?

And isn't your wedding supposed to be about you celebrating the happiest time of your life? I'd say it's always been the case that brides are selfish in regards to their weddings. Long may it continue!!

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The bride is indeed supposed to get everything she wants, it's supposedly more her wedding, than even the groom!

When the bride gets a little too into this theory, I call it 'bridezilla' :p



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titchy_lou

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Miss_DiCaprio said:
titchy_lou said:
I understand that I can just take extra insulin, but as I've said in previous posts, I am anxious to do this, after seeing my grandad and other people who do it, ruin their lives. My diabetes also isn't under control yet, so I don't see why I should put a strain on it, just for her.

Try not to feel afraid or anxious of your insulin in terms of taking extra. By taking extra to cover for something eaten is not something to be anxious off this is normal. I'm sad to hear you have had to witness other people's lives be affected by this but the reason we would take the extra insulin is so that we don't suffer long term complications after all and done so correctly then you could say insulin is our best friend in a way, it let's us live long happy lives too. I notice you have not been diagnosed a long time so I understand our different points of view. I have had diabetes for ten years and it is still not under control. I can eat chocolate without putting strain on my diabetes.

Sometimes the stress and the over thinking puts more strain on us and our diabetes than anything.

Thank you for finally addressing this part! As you know, I've only been diagnosed for 18 months, I've had basal insulin a month, and bolus, only a week, I hope I can be excused for being anxious so little on! I've asked my dsn about correction doses, but she said one step at a time.


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titchy_lou

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MCMLXXIII said:
I've read this thread with interest.
I'm type 2 so realise you're position is somewhat more precarious here.
But, if it was me I would attend whatever she decided and refrain from any potentially dangerous consumption and use the art of conversation to my advantage.
I hope you find an amicable solution, its a shame for anyone to fall out over this, whatever the outcome:)

I'm afraid I don't have that art of conversation. Also, I imagine they're going to want to discuss what the chocolate is like, not what's going in next weekend etc :s


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titchy_lou said:
Thanks for all your input, everyone. I'm still thinking about this a lot, especially as today was my cousins weddings :)

I'm starting to think my friend has taken the 'oh that'll never happen to you' attitude, when I've explained what happened to my grandad. However, my friend struggles with a thyroid problem, and I really do feel like turning this around a bit..what if I said to her to stop taking her tablets for a day, and that she'd be ok? I think she might react hot I've reacted...

Wish I could just get this sorted now, I absolutely hate having people annoyed with me


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Titchy Lou ... believe me ... having people annoyed with you is far better than having so called 'friends' walk all over you because after a while YOU'LL become very annoyed with YOU for allowing that to happen. Just trust that YOU are entitled to make your own decisions and you don't have to compromise on things you don't feel you should compromise on. A true friend will always understand and welcome that. Some people are way too accommodating and willing to please others and they don't attract real friends, they attract control freaks. They don't realise this until the day comes when they don't do as they're expected. Then they see the 'friend's' true colours. Practice being unpopular and standing your ground for a while ... and see what happens. I think you'd like the results it brings.
 

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I'm with you titchy.

Friends are meant to care and I if a friend of mine had suggested this I would have replied like you. You weren't being unreasonable and as you say it would only mean being away for a few hours. You don't all need to be joined at the hip throughout the weekend.

Unfortunately people don't realise how difficult situations can be - some cope with situations like this and others don't cope so well and it only takes small things sometimes to tip the balance. It's usually the people we care and like the most that suffer the brunt.

If you are ally good mates I would pick up the phone/text with a jokey chocolately based quip and finish by saying it would be really tough so would she really mind if you just opted out for a few hours as you really want to be there. A bit of compromise but not having to go to the chocolate thing. I, like you, would find it a total ngihtmare and it would upset me. Sorry if others don't agree.

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Riri said:
I'm with you titchy.

Friends are meant to care and I if a friend of mine had suggested this I would have replied like you. You weren't being unreasonable and as you say it would only mean being away for a few hours. You don't all need to be joined at the hip throughout the weekend.

Unfortunately people don't realise how difficult situations can be - some cope with situations like this and others don't cope so well and it only takes small things sometimes to tip the balance. It's usually the people we care and like the most that suffer the brunt.

If you are ally good mates I would pick up the phone/text with a jokey chocolately based quip and finish by saying it would be really tough so would she really mind if you just opted out for a few hours as you really want to be there. A bit of compromise but not having to go to the chocolate thing. I, like you, would find it a total ngihtmare and it would upset me. Sorry if others don't agree.

Good luck

Good points Riri

I have been thinking about this alot, what if it was me? and my friend J got married and had a hen weekend. If she choose a chocolate event or say decorating cakes or sampling different breads, not only would that be a bitof a nightmare, because of Diabetes and Coeliac disease, I'm sure I would be 'put out'.

1) she would know I am diabetic
2) she would know I have Coeliac disease
3) Is she catering for herself? because, to be fair,she is the bride to be
4) Is she caterting for the majority of ladies/family members attending?
5) If she is, I am sure I would feel as though I was maybe pushed to oneside and not catered for like the others :?
6) If I had a fear of heights and she wanted to go rock climbing, well...........
7) If she paid for driving at Brands Htach, I don't drive
8) Hot air balooning, height issues

So I'm sure members can see where I'm coming from and where this is going.

1000's of females apparently love choclate, chocoholics and the friend probably just thought that they would all love this. I like chocolate in very small quanitites, because even injecting insulin to cover it would make me 'spike'.

Titchy, If your friend was a flower, would you pick her?

Maybe when the dusts settles and things calm down, you could discuss the problem with a 3rd party there who would be impartial. Hopefully it will be sorted out once and for all.

A quote "Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter"

Take care and I hope you enjoy the Easter weekend

All the best RRB :)
 

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Both my daughter and I have Type 1 diabetes. Me for 46 years and my daughter for twenty years. My daughter got married two years ago and also for her Hen do we all went on a chocolate making course. We are still living to tell the tale and had a wonderful time without it affecting our blood sugar levels.!!!!!!!! :thumbup:
It is not dangerous to eat chocolate when you have Type 1 diabetes providing you test your blood sugar and inject if needed.
Maybe your friend knows this too ?!!!!!
 

eveshamgal

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You can't have away from normal activities your while life because of diabetes or any illness really.

Do you (collective you not just the OP) not go to parties because they might serve cake? Do you not go to the pub because they sell alcohol? Do you not go out for meals because they might serve chips? Of course not and this is no different.

I am going to a wedding reception tomorrow and as the bride and groom are a bit strapped for cash they have asked us to bring specific good items. I've been asked to bring fish sandwiches. Did I throw my dolly out if the pram because they have asked me to prepare a food item that I can't eat because I am low carbing due to my diabetes? Of course I haven't because I am a grown woman who appreciates the fact that she has been asked to be involved in her friends special day.

I'm sorry if I'm not making any friends on this thread by going against the grain but a lot of people need to get over themselves. It's your life, your illness and your responsibility.

We are having a roast dinner for my Dada birthday on Sunday but I haven't banned potatoes and stuffing and Yorkshire puddings because I can't eat them. I know that if I eat them I will suffer and so will simply leave them off my plate.

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titchy_lou said:
I'm not sure how far my depressive state relates to my diabetes, but something diabetes-related has tipped me over the edge tonight, and I actually don't know what to do or say anymore...

My friend is getting married in December, and she asked me to be a bridesmaid. All is fine and dandy. Last week, she sent details of her hen weekend...a weekend in Bath, one day of which is dedicated to chocolate making and tasting. Obviously, having diabetes, this is my worst nightmare. I loved chocolate before I had diabetes.

I said that I would just do a bit of sightseeing while they were doing the chocolate making, and would enjoy the rest of the weekend doing whatever with them...her reply was "can't you have some chocolate and inject a little more insulin". My grandad killed himself a year ago, as a result of abusing his body, I'm not going to kill myself.

As a result of me standing up for myself, my 'friend' is now implying she doesn't want me to be a bridesmaid.

I don't expect people who don't have diabetes to fully understand the ins and outs of the disease, but I do expect 'friends' to show a little compassion for those who can't eat what they want, have to inject themselves every time they eat, and just have to care for their bodies.

I do understand that I could join in with the chocolate day, but I'm REALLY struggling with my everyday diabetes, without having to think about being naughty, and I shouldn't have to do something that's only going to make me feel more down about my diabetes. It's not as if I've said I can't go at all :'(




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With friends like this.....

If you had an issue with alcohol ( yes, I understand that it isn't the same) would she expect you to go a beer festival?

Hope you can work it out....


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I think the analogy to Sunday lunch is not really fair. At home everyone can chose what they want to eat - no external pressure. This is a group environment where the whole purpose of the visit will be chocolate tasting. I go to pubs and eat out but if my best friend chose a full-on boozy weekend in Blackpool as a hen weekend that would be difficult as I would not want to go crazy with alcohol and with the best will in the world I would then feel left out. If those of us who have T1 diabetes can't understand how these situations can be difficult for some of us (not all granted) then we have little hope of expecting others to begin to understand how certain situations can affect us physically and mentally in a very big way. It's like everything in life though - people differ greatly and everyone's comfort zone is set to a different level.
 

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I think the person throwing her dolly out of the pram is the bride in this case. The bridesmaid hasn't suggested cancelling the chocolate factory because of her diabetes, she's simple said that she'll be happy to go sightseeing for a while instead. The bride's response to that was to 'reconsider' having her friend as a bridesmaid after all which smacks of being a spoiled, manipulative, immature brat. God help her future hubby.
 

eveshamgal

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GraceK said:
I think the person throwing her dolly out of the pram is the bride in this case. The bridesmaid hasn't suggested cancelling the chocolate factory because of her diabetes, she's simple said that she'll be happy to go sightseeing for a while instead. The bride's response to that was to 'reconsider' having her friend as a bridesmaid after all which smacks of being a spoiled, manipulative, immature brat. God help her future hubby.

Yes I will give you the fact that the bride cutting the OP out of the wedding because of this is very childish. A friendship is surely worth more than a chocolate tasting day.

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Eveshamgal ,
I'm sorry if I'm not making any friends on this thread by going against the grain but a lot of people need to get over themselves.
You probably have made more friends because of your honest opinion.
Yes I will give you the fact that the bride cutting the OP out of the wedding because of this is very childish. A friendship is surely worth more than a chocolate tasting day.
May I suggest this song on the wedding Day:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-8rynzCbkc

Roy. :)
 

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titchy_lou said:
The bride is indeed supposed to get everything she wants, it's supposedly more her wedding, than even the groom!

Of course it is. Weddings are for women. The men are just there to make up the numbers.
 

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Can't believe how much this has grabbed everyone's attention. You have a choice. You can go and try a little chocolate, I'm sure they won't force feed you. Alternatively, just don't go ! Bit harsh but it's her wedding. She is the centre of attention for the entire day and she also calls the shots ! It's naive of us to assume that any non-diabetic would understand the disease and it's complications. We only read up on it when we get it ! To be honest, I think there's maybe more to this than the chocolate tasting. Are you otherwise great friends ? I can't believe this is something to fall out over ! Shame if it is.
 

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mo1905 said:
Can't believe how much this has grabbed everyone's attention. You have a choice. You can go and try a little chocolate, I'm sure they won't force feed you. Alternatively, just don't go ! Bit harsh but it's her wedding. She is the centre of attention for the entire day and she also calls the shots ! It's naive of us to assume that any non-diabetic would understand the disease and it's complications. We only read up on it when we get it ! To be honest, I think there's maybe more to this than the chocolate tasting. Are you otherwise great friends ? I can't believe this is something to fall out over ! Shame if it is.


The irony of you commenting on how you cannot believe how this thread has grabbed everyone's attention is not lost on me......


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