HELP with pre diabetes diet

[jeanie99]

Need some good advice and suggestions taking into account the following, suggestions for websites which might provide me with what I'm after.

I have high blood pressure, High cholestral, leaking heart valve and prediabetes

I am not overwieght 10 stone at 5'5" work out at the gym regularly, have an active life and I am 68 years old and feel well.

I am taking BP medication and was on Statins for 6 months until last week when I asked my GP if I could stop make a change to my diet sufficient to lower my cholestral.
Reason being I was sent some disturbing information about statin use from my DIL. I had reasontly had memory problems and thought I had the starting of Dementia after reading the report I thought the Statin medication may account for this.

Anyhow to cut a long story short what I'm after is the best diet for me taking into account my medical problems.
The following is my diet with comments, It's a bit long so I apologise for this but wanted people to know what I eat at this moment in time.

Fruit, are some fruits better to eat than others, I eat bananas, kiwi,grapes,netarines,peaches,maily soft fruits
vegetables, I eat cauli, brocolli,sweet potatoe,celery, peas, green beans all steamed, carrots (roasted or steamed),, potatoes (roasted steamed),mushy peas boiled
Salad, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, onions with mainly vineger rarely salad cream
meat, I eat regularly poultry (breast roasted)and fish (baked or poached), once a month lamb, pork roasted, liver with onions and carrots as a casserole
Oven chips I have about twice a month
I make Fish pie with mixed fish including prawns in a white sauce and potatoes on top
I make tortilla, potatoes onions and eggs, once a month have with salad
Stir fry, mixed veg including beansprounts with chicken and I make a curry sauce
bread I eat brown, maybe 2 slices a day for a sandwich
white rice eat very occassionally, is brown better
pasta east very occassionally
Fats, I use butter on toast and in sauces, don't have butter on sandwiches, use extra virgin for cooking
Milk - don't have this in drinks but in soup (potatoe and onion and chicken and sweetcorn)or sauces (onion or fish)
Eggs- I have about 2 eggs a week
Cheese, twice a week on bread for lunch
Pate occassionall
Bacon once a month I grill bacon and have this with tinned tomatoe and a fried egg and bread
Tinned mackeral, have this in a sandwich for lunch
Pickles, cucumber,onion, occassionaly
crisps rarely
Nuts - in the evening a small amount
I make my own vegetable soup and have this mainly for breakfast as I don't like cereals.
Don't use salt
Use herbs and spices for flavour

Can't remember when I last bought fish and chips or a take away.

Eating out - mainly a roast dinner sometimes may have salmon with chips and salad, curry and white rice, Thai/Chinese food rarely

Alcoholic tend to have a half a pint of larger when we go out for a meal. Very occassionally go out and would drink a couple of pints last time was New Years Eve.
Tea 2 or 3 cups a day no milk or suger
Water with Lime cordial

I was eating a piece of cake every day sometimes 2 pieces but I haven't had any since I saw the doctor, I don't eat bisquits or eat in between meals
I love chocolate but rarely eat it now
I do find it hard cutting out deserts but don't want to go back on Statins

Any advice would be appreciated

 

[LittleWolf]

I'd avoid the alcohol :/

It sounds harsh. I never drank often but could always handle myself well. But it does do crazy things to BG and you're a /regular/ drinker.

Also I've been advised to avoid fruit with low fiber content so I'll pass that advice on to you

Good luck <3


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[Thommothebear]

I'd avoid potatoes and anything with white flour in it personally they both spike my bg quite badly and cutting those out have made a huge difference to me. Olive oil is great but heating it changes its properties and it can become quite bad for you if its used for frying, especially extra virgin olive oil which is best cold (we use loads, wife is italian)


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[jeanie99]

Many thanks for the replies could you tell me

When thickening sauces what do you use instead of flour
For a stir fry what oil do you use
Which flour should I use if making pancakes

Thanks

 

[Angela(NZ)]

Personally I would use guar gum to thicken sauces.
For stirfry's I use extra virgin olive oil or coconut oil
and for pancakes I would use almond flour.

Im pre-diabetic and I don't eat anything with flour or sugar....I now have excellent blood sugar control

 

[janeecee]

A small portion of oven chips gave me my highest 2 hour post prandial reading ever so I'd cut them out.


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[catherinecherub]

Need some good advice and suggestions taking into account the following, suggestions for websites which might provide me with what I'm after.

I have high blood pressure, High cholestral, leaking heart valve and prediabetes

I am not overwieght 10 stone at 5'5" work out at the gym regularly, have an active life and I am 68 years old and feel well.

I am taking BP medication and was on Statins for 6 months until last week when I asked my GP if I could stop make a change to my diet sufficient to lower my cholestral.
Reason being I was sent some disturbing information about statin use from my DIL. I had reasontly had memory problems and thought I had the starting of Dementia after reading the report I thought the Statin medication may account for this.

Anyhow to cut a long story short what I'm after is the best diet for me taking into account my medical problems.
The following is my diet with comments, It's a bit long so I apologise for this but wanted people to know what I eat at this moment in time.

Fruit, are some fruits better to eat than others, I eat bananas, kiwi,grapes,netarines,peaches,maily soft fruits
vegetables, I eat cauli, brocolli,sweet potatoe,celery, peas, green beans all steamed, carrots (roasted or steamed),, potatoes (roasted steamed),mushy peas boiled
Salad, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, onions with mainly vineger rarely salad cream
meat, I eat regularly poultry (breast roasted)and fish (baked or poached), once a month lamb, pork roasted, liver with onions and carrots as a casserole
Oven chips I have about twice a month
I make Fish pie with mixed fish including prawns in a white sauce and potatoes on top
I make tortilla, potatoes onions and eggs, once a month have with salad
Stir fry, mixed veg including beansprounts with chicken and I make a curry sauce
bread I eat brown, maybe 2 slices a day for a sandwich
white rice eat very occassionally, is brown better
pasta east very occassionally
Fats, I use butter on toast and in sauces, don't have butter on sandwiches, use extra virgin for cooking
Milk - don't have this in drinks but in soup (potatoe and onion and chicken and sweetcorn)or sauces (onion or fish)
Eggs- I have about 2 eggs a week
Cheese, twice a week on bread for lunch
Pate occassionall
Bacon once a month I grill bacon and have this with tinned tomatoe and a fried egg and bread
Tinned mackeral, have this in a sandwich for lunch
Pickles, cucumber,onion, occassionaly
crisps rarely
Nuts - in the evening a small amount
I make my own vegetable soup and have this mainly for breakfast as I don't like cereals.
Don't use salt
Use herbs and spices for flavour

Can't remember when I last bought fish and chips or a take away.

Eating out - mainly a roast dinner sometimes may have salmon with chips and salad, curry and white rice, Thai/Chinese food rarely

Alcoholic tend to have a half a pint of larger when we go out for a meal. Very occassionally go out and would drink a couple of pints last time was New Years Eve.
Tea 2 or 3 cups a day no milk or suger
Water with Lime cordial

I was eating a piece of cake every day sometimes 2 pieces but I haven't had any since I saw the doctor, I don't eat bisquits or eat in between meals
I love chocolate but rarely eat it now
I do find it hard cutting out deserts but don't want to go back on Statins

Any advice would be appreciated

It is very difficult to advise other people what to eat as our responses to certain foods differ.

I think the best advice I can give you is to invest in a meter and test strips and see which foods are raising your blood sugars. Some people can eat potatoes, some cannot and it is the same with many foods
including fruit.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that if you followed my diet, it may work for you and it may not. You have to try and find a lifestyle choice that incorporates things you prefer to eat.

There is a cholesterol lowering diet called the Portfolio Diet, have you looked at that ?

http://heartuk.org.uk/images/uploads/he ... _portD.pdf


Read the advice that Daisy posts for newly diagnosed diabetics and see if there is anything there that will help too.

 

[daisy1]

Read the advice that Daisy posts for newly diagnosed diabetics and see if there is anything there that will help too.

Here is the advice that Catherine is referring to and I hope you will find it helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

• Reduce your carbohydrate intake
• Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)

• Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l

However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

• structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
• self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

 

[jeanie99]

Thanks you so much to everyone who replied to my questions I very much appreciate it.

I've found with all the reading on lowering cholesterol and eating for a pre diabetic that it is so confusing for me.

I have however stopped eating deserts completely, it was difficult at first but I'm alright now and I have cut down on potatoes and stopped using white flour. Thanks for the information on thickening sauces that's very useful.

I have to see my GP at the end of July for another blood test to check my cholesterol basically to see if as lowered, he said the Statin medication will be out of my system by then so fingers crossed.

I'm away on holiday at the moment and trying to eat what I think is the best food for me but it is difficult, I ordered brown rice last night and I had served white rice with chips.