Could do with some advice please?

PurpleK

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
Hi, I have diabetes type 2, was diagnosed a year ago and I manage it successfully on diet alone. Anyway, my youngest daughter, who is 6, around a month ago began wetting the bed after being totally dry for nearly 4 yrs. She's constantly thirsty, will even drink from the upstairs tap so I have just found out - hence the bed wetting. She never used to like just water, now she is drinking it like its going out of fashion!! During the day she is constantly whingy, grouchy and tired. I struggle to get her out of bed in a morning and when she comes home from school she just wants to put her pj's on and lie on the sofa, most of the time refusing to go out with her friends. Do I have cause for concern here?
 

PurpleK

Active Member
Messages
35
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
She had her breakfast a little while ago now so thought I would check her blood sugars with my monitor - 12.9 - I am making her an appt first thing in the morning to see the GP
 

angieG

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Insulin
Sounds like she needs checking out to me. If I were you I would keep a note of her levels during the day today and show the Doctor. If they are all higher than normal like the 12.9 at least you have some proof if any blood tests come back normal.

If her levels stay high and continue to rise during the day don't hesitate to call 111 or go to A&E as if she turns out to be type 1 that can progress very rapidly in the young.

Hope all goes well,
Angie
 

PurpleK

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
Thank you Angie, I will be phoning the surgery first thing tomorrow to get her seen too. I will update as I know more.
 

misslotty1

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Maybe you could contact 111. they are really helpful. I dont mean to panic you but i think seeking medical advise asap could prevent a distressed 999 and an even more poorly child. Sending hugs x x

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mrman

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Pump
Go to a and e now to be safe. Drinking like that is a sign of diabetic ketoacidosis, so her body is making her very thirsty to flush out the ketones. Very dangerous if left. Better safe than sorry.

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PurpleK

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35
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
She's not unwell in herself though - she's currently out playing with her friend?? She's been drinking lots over the past few weeks, not just today..
 

mrman

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Puprple, those levels and drinking that much go to a and e. I had a thirst fire months before finally blood tests from doc showed ketones. Did not know levels so on advice from gp waited 3 days . Felt well in myself but hospital was surprised I was walking and sound of mind. Don't wait till something more serious happens before seeking help.

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coco4

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Hi PurpleK I agree 100% with Brett. Having been diagnosed with Type 1 by way of having ketoacidosis I would not wish the condition and the subsequent horrible exprience that followed on anybody. Don't want to alarm you just concerned and hoping to save you and your little one from the experience. Mine progressed very rapidly after developing the unquenchable thirst and very very frequent visits to the loo. Don't be fooled just because she is out playing with friends. I managed to make a train journey of a hundred miles while experiencing the above. It did not end well. Good luck Carole
 

phoenix

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Pump
I agree that you should get her checked by a doctor, there could be other explanations and you'll only worry if you don't.
You've mentioned 3 of the 4 things DUK says to look out for.

Toilet
Going to the toilet a lot, bed wetting by a previously dry child or heavier nappies in babies
Thirsty
Being really thirsty and not being able to quench the thirst
Tired
Feeling more tired than usual
Thinner
Losing weight or looking thinner than usual

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/The4Ts
 

CambridgeLass

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I have to say I'm in agreement. My daughter was fine apart from the drinking and going to the toilet more. I felt very silly but called the out of hours doc as it was the weekend and got told to take her to A&E. Very glad we did and caught it early before it got worse. You are not wasting anyone's time. Thinking of you. x


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Shell1

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Type of diabetes
Parent
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Pump
That's the symptoms my little girl had I thought I was being paronoid went docs any way they tested her wee and sent us straight to hospital where she was diagnosed type 1 at only 8.she was not ill at all wet the bed once and was constantly drinkin only events docs as was pressured by my sister I thought I was wasting there time .so glad I went when I did,before she got poorly


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hale710

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Type of diabetes
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PurpleK said:
She's not unwell in herself though - she's currently out playing with her friend?? She's been drinking lots over the past few weeks, not just today..

I felt 100% fine for 3 months before I was diagnosed, apart from needing the toilet and drinking like a fish. Even though I had the usual tiredness, if I really wanted to do something I did it because I didn't feel I was ill.

A reading of 12.9 is not normal by anyone standards, you should have her checked immediately. If it comes back negative then I guarantee no one would blame you for having her checked!
 

Hellbunny

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Type of diabetes
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I hope everything is ok, without sounding daft I repeat what everyone else says, I'm type 1 and felt fine at the time, was nearly diagnosed with a blood sugar level of 10.3 when it was in the early stages, 2 weeks later fully diagnosed with a level of 26mmol. A&e is the best place for your daughter, they will tell you that x

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PurpleK

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
They think she has a urine infection, wasn't really interested. Got an appt with her own gp on wednesday
 

CambridgeLass

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Sorry, don't think for a second you've wasted anyone's time because you haven't. Did they do a BG test? Did they check the urine for infection? We were also almost sent home. I took my daughter in without breakfast so her fasting glucose was 9mmol. Hours later, peads doc wanted to send us home, said it could be a urine infection, but I challenged her as urine sample was -ve for infection and I insisted on another test (just had lunch) BG was 23, then climbed to the 30s. Needless to say further tests confirmed T1 and I complained about the doctor who was so quick to dismiss. My husband was so ready to go home..I knew something was not right and we'd be back in a possible worse state :( I'm sorry to say there is such variance in medical knowledge. I do hope all goes well for you x


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hale710

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I hope that diagnosis is correct. Fingers crossed :)
 

EllisB

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
A doctor trains for 7 years or more to become a generalist, but most will never experience hyperglycaemia, let alone ketoacidosis.

Over time, the 20% f diabetics who manage to control their condition well become specialists in their condition.

Your BG readings for your daughter may have many explanations, that is why self-monitoring is . An emergency medicine specialist should have considered all the possibilities - after all, one of our body's responses to infection is to increase blood glucose, hence the problem for T1's. Your daughter's condition could easily be as diagnosed, with the complication of early insulin resistance.

You are far more alert for DM than the general population. While her condition stabilises, trust the medics, if it worsens, take her back so they can gather the evidence and make a diagnosis.