hello from Norfolk....

lynton

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Just a quick hello.........

Recently suspected I had diabetes T2, - family history and feeling a bit ******..at times... Lloyds pharmacy check came in at 14 and 13 mmol..

Booked an appointment with GP's in the meantime went to walk in centre... hit a massive 27.9 mmol and was put on glicozide (?)- 80mg.. saw GP who went ballistic and switched to metformin... however seem to have a few side effects...

- feel a bit bloated
- legs just ache...

Is this normal (web would suggest yes) ... if so, how long does it last...

Also thoroughly confused over what should / should not be eating ... other than little sugar / fat / carbs... so that leaves meat!!!
 

Superchip

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Greetings lynton of Norfolk !

First off I expect Daisy will be along with the usual great guidance for newcomers concerning diet.

27.9 is quite something !, I've only managed a 25 in the old days before getting the Low Carb advice on here.

Do take your time in reducing these numbers, it is usually possible.

This place is agreat source of information, many seasoned diabetics hang around on here, just ask any questions you want.

Good luck, regards Superchip
 

lynton

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Cheers superchip.....

I am sure once I get my head around it will all make sense..........

I guess the one thing that "concerns" me is through work spend quite a bit of time away from home...... and that makes the diet a bit more difficult...

Dad is a T2 and told hereditary as well, so can always get advice there...

Guess the beer and cider get to be cut out!!


I'll see if I can find out other results..
 

Superchip

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lynton, if you're dad is a well controlled T2 then his advice will be invaluable.

I see that daisy hasn't been along with her diet advice yet, I think she is probably busy trying to get rid of all these nuisance adverts for kitchens.

The thing about beer/cider etc is that you need to google the carb content and include those values in your intake. I personally drink vodka and soda - carb free as far as I can tell. Always a large one as a heart starter in the morning ! - Keith Floyd !

Like you I had a job travelling the world, fixing military computers 24/7/365 and led what can only be described as a blooming good but not perhaps ' healthy ' lifestyle for 30 years, leading to a new ticker 19 years ago, then diabetes brought on by medicinal drugs.

By the way it's my 63rd birthday today ! CHEERS Papworth, never thought I'd see it !

Roy
 

daisy1

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Hi Lynton and welcome to the forum :)
Sorry for the delay but line's been down all morning :?
Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

ElyDave

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Superchip said:
lynton, if you're dad is a well controlled T2 then his advice will be invaluable.

I see that daisy hasn't been along with her diet advice yet, I think she is probably busy trying to get rid of all these nuisance adverts for kitchens.

The thing about beer/cider etc is that you need to google the carb content and include those values in your intake. I personally drink vodka and soda - carb free as far as I can tell. Always a large one as a heart starter in the morning ! - Keith Floyd !

Like you I had a job travelling the world, fixing military computers 24/7/365 and led what can only be described as a blooming good but not perhaps ' healthy ' lifestyle for 30 years, leading to a new ticker 19 years ago, then diabetes brought on by medicinal drugs.

By the way it's my 63rd birthday today ! CHEERS Papworth, never thought I'd see it !

Roy

My aunt who used to live in Norfolk was treated at Papworth as well, had a stent fitted. They have a great reputation, so you were a lucky man.

I'm in the same position in that I travel the world for work, in oil and gas mainly. I've been sticking to Aberdeen since my diagnosis two weeks ago but I'm going to have to plan for long haul and going offshore again at some point.

Managing diet is definitely harder when travelling, but I've had a good few years trying to do that as a keen amateur athlete so trying to make sure I'm not undoing my hard work training by having a cooked breakfast, lunch and dinner every day while I'm away.

Good luck with it

Dave
 

Superchip

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Hello ElyDave....

You are right about Papworth, I've been under their care for 20 odd years now, they have kept this old cronk going !
I've seen some astonishing advances in heart treatments over that time.

I think that my issue was trying to burn the candle at both ends by trying to keep up with the younger engineers in whatever country I was working !

Well TTFN Dave, give my regards to your aunt, hope she is well.

Thanks for the reply..

Roy

EDIT: Let's spare a thought for the Soprano's boss James Gandolfini who just died of a suspected heart attack in Italy.