Just been diagnosed.. not sure what to expect..

rabbit0864

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So - I have just been diagnosed, type 2 I think.

The doctor has prescribed me Metformin - starting at 500mg on a morning working up to 500mg 3 times a day over three weeks.

I have an appointment with a nurse / diabetes clinic in a couple of weeks.

Blood sugar was 14 or round abouts - the doctor also quoted another figure of 96 - not sure what that was though - can anyone enlighten me?

Not sure what to expect from here - can anyone give me any advice?

Cheers

rabbit
 

daisy1

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Hi rabbit and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and members will be along to help soon.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

rabbit0864

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Thanks for that. I had read the info in some other posts.

At the moment, I have no idea when my sugars are high or low. I guess I will be discussing that with the nurse in a fortnight?

What do I do in the meantime? I have already changed my diet - I did that a couple of months ago as part of an overall healthier lifestyle - I quit smoking, changed my diet (much lower in carbs, wholegrain rice / wholemeal bread etc and plenty of veg!) and I stopped a lot of my caffeine and virtually all carbonated drinks intake - as well as which I drink very little alcohol.

I had my first Metformin tablet this morning - not feeling particularly good today either after a restless night. At the moment I just feel a little cloudy and a little nausious. No stomach pain or anything as of yet though.

Anyway - will see how it goes and post later.

Cheers

Rabbit
 

carraway

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You could always buy your own monitor since the NHS seems reluctant to let anyone have them. Lots of companies give them away for free but the test strips can be pricey.

SD Codefree is the cheapest to buy with the cheapest strips. It may be something you would find useful

I know I like to see what things make my blood sugar rise. I'm still fairly new to all this.


Cara
 

rabbit0864

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Thanks for the tip on the SD Codefree - Mine arrived in the post yesterday.

Anyway - now I have learnt how to use it, it raises a few more questions...

Since Sunday, I have been trying to cut out as many carbs as possible - I am averaging 15-25g per day at the moment and not feeling any ill effects. I also increased my Metformin dosage to 1000mg / day yesterday (having 500mg at breakfast and 500mg with my evening meal)

Levels as indicated by the SD Codefree ranged between 7 and 9 throughout the day yesterday and didn't really rise after meals - so I thought I was doing pretty well. But then this morning, I took the test before breakfast and it was 14.2 - What happened? How has it gone up so much over night and what can I do to stop that happening?

The Metformin is still making me feel yucky as well - is there anything I can do about this? Also, it is causing me difficulties in sleeping - I feel wide awake when I go to bed :(
 

destiny0321

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hi rabbit
i can answer the metformin one if you are still not right ask your dn or dr to put you on metformin slow release it is gentle on the tummy
 

rabbit0864

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Thanks - I will ask the nurse about it when I see her on Monday. Any clues on my BG levels? Its slowly dropping at the moment.. down to about 12 now.
 

carraway

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Hi

Morning are usually the highest. Google 'dawn phenomenon ' or 'liver dump'

I have heard that slow release Metformin is harder to get hold off, probably more expensive to the NHS

I would not tell you to exaggerate how upset your stomach is...that would be wrong. :wink:

I may be wrong on the cost?..

Keep track on what you are eating. And let us know how you get on
 

rabbit0864

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I have read loads of stuff about 'dawn phenomenon' and I understand whats going on - the question is how do I fix it? Will the Metformin stop it happening and how long should that take? Or - is the low carbing the right way to go in stopping it? BG is still high today though - still over 9 at 2pm :( I can't even go for a walk to try and lower it as I am on my own at work today and have to man the phones.

As for the yucky feeling - I feel more nauseous than anything - my stomach itself is fine.
 

sparkyrich

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I suffered with dodgy guts with the metformin but it lasted less than a month and everything's been ok since. It takes a little while for the effects of a LC diet to kick in and levels to stabilise. Keep on keeping on and things ought to come good!


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rabbit0864

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Still not sure what to do about the "dawn phenomenon"? and its a bit worrying now.

When i am going to bed, my BG is around 6-7 now - and my average throughout the day is coming down - but these morning highs are a little scary. When I first wake up, they seem to be a little high - around 8 or 9 - but then after I have washed, dressed etc I am seeing a sharp spike to 13 or 14 (but before breakfast) - this then takes most of the day to wear off fully. By lunchtime it is dropping to around 10 and by the time I have my evening meal its back to 6 or 7. I see no big rises after eating any meals.

HELP!!