IS VITAMIN D3 GOOD OR DANGEROUS FOR DIABETICS?

neilalastair

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You need to get your Vit D level checked by a blood test and while you are at it get serum calcium and PTH. And go and see and endocrinologist .

Any Vit D deficiency is easily rectified and can improve multiple health conditions .
Overdosing on vit D can be bad.


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Q007

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Update: I had my bloods drawn on Monday for HBA1C, I asked for the Vit D test to be done but the nurse refused as it hasn't been authorised by a quack. After reading and watching VT's on YouTube I bought some D3 - 10,000 IU and have been taking 2 of these soft gel tablets a day for about a week. This past two days I've felt much brighter in mood, no question. My joints still ache but I think that's a side effect from a prescription drug I take so we'll see if the D3 helps as time goes by. I have an appointment with a GP on Friday and plan to bring the D3 matter up and see what he says.

If I'm honest I can't quite grasp some of the information posted on this matter I'm very confused, my fault and I do appreciate the data anyway.

Kind regards,

Q..


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Wurst

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I suffer from chronic insomnia in the winter time largely due to a lack of light (SAD). When the insomnia kicks in I start taking D3 in the morning around 6000 IU in a mixture both tablet form and liquid. It doesn't stop the insomnia but certainly helps with the side effects of 2-3 hours of sleep and then 9 - 10 hours a work :-(. I read somewhere that with normal sunlight the body makes around 20,000 IU per day and up to 10,000 IU in supplements per day are safe. When I'm aching, normally due to exercise, I tend to take magnesium and this alleviates the problem.
 
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Maybird

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I personally do not take any supplements except a cod liver oil capsule once a day and have taken this for many many years I would rather get all the other vitamins and minerals from my food.
Doctors are really not to keen on people taking vitamins unless they really need them for certain conditions or have a poor diet then they would be prescribed or recommended by them
 
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Maybird

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Q007 said:
Good evening,

After viewing several VT's on YouTube about Vitamin D and the better form; D3, I have ordered Vitamin D3 as the posts I read make claims and state benefits for those who don't get out much, low mood, bone \ joint problems and prevention of 19 cancers. There are some very passionate Doctors on video thumping the tub on the huge array of benefits of vitamin D, they state that vitamin D2 is synthesised and that D3 is the one to take. (key in vitamin D3 on YouTube to learn about the benefits of Vitamin D3)

Minutes after I ordered the D3, I found a damming post on the web about toxicity from taking too high a dose of D3, which included excess calcium in the blood stream which, over time, can cause atherosclerosis and heart problems.. I was under the impression that D3 (which is actually a hormone) is non-toxic and has NO known side effects - I've ordered tablets of D3 with 10,000 IU strength - RDA is 400-600 IU but if you don't get out much (work in an office or building, travel to work by car \ bus \ train, have your skin covered, go to the gym but by car etc) is the same as not going outside, again some doctors advise taking 2,000 UI of D3 a day and others say go much higher, see for yourself on Ytube.

I'm not concerned about the benefits of D3 as even the NHS (who usually fence-sit on everything) have a published article on Vitamin D - there is no question at all that Vitamin D especially the D3 form is beneficial. My question, and sorry for the long text on this, is whether 10,000 IU strength is OK to take. I haven't had the 25 ohd Vitamin D blood test but I have to be in the low category because of my circumstances (don't get enough UVB sunlight). If 10,000 IU is for sale is it therefore safe? Is it beneficial for diabetics in anyway?

I apologise for the long post but I like to explain detail, I would be so keen to hear from anyone who has knowledge or personal experience with Vitamin D3? what's your experience? what do you know? is there risk of toxicity?

Hope today has found you all well,

Kind regards,

Q..

As you take prescribed medication you really should check with your doctor or DN about taking that
 

pegletbee

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For what it's worth: I've been on vitamin D3 for about 4 years now, on the advice first of my specialist in the Netherlands and later also in the UK. I used to get it on prescription in NL, but was advised to buy from Holland and Barrett here, as although it is accepted that pretty much everyone in Northern Europe is deficient, lower doses are not available on prescription here. I was also told not to worry about overdosing - indeed one doctor told me if I forgot to take them for a few days I could take them all at once and it wouldn't be a problem. I buy the 25ug tablets (1,000 IU) and I try to remember to take 1 a day in summer and 2 or 3 a day in winter.
I was hoping they would help alleviate joint pain, but have never noticed that they do particularly, but what I have noticed is that they have dramatically improved my resistance to minor cold and flu type infections. If I forget to take them for a while I generally pay the price and catch a cold.
So basically, in the winter I am taking 2 - 3,000 IU a day. I would be wary of exceeding that, which is after all already 1000 - 1500% of RDA, without checking with the specialist first that it's OK.
Good luck with it whatever you decide. I hope it boosts your immune system as it seems to have done mine.
 

mpe

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Hobs said:
You would be much better off with a high output broard spectrum daylight lamp shining on as much bare skin as possible.

You probably don't want broad spectrum. Photochemical reactions tend to require photons of exactly the right photon energy. So instead a narrow spectrum (290-320nm), even monochromatic, light source might work a lot better
Proper eye protection (goggles) is, of course, essential.
Light of the wrong frequency can still cause sunburn or promote melanin production. Both of which will impair your ability to produce D3. This is even a problem with too much light of the right frequency. How much is too much depends on all sorts of factors including your complexion, availability of 7-dehydrocholesterol, etc.
(N.B. It's very unclear what effect HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (satins) have on 7-dehydrocholesterol. Some papers say that these drugs should increase it, others that they actually reduce the amount present in VLDL and LDL. It isn't clear where the 7-dehydrocholesterol used to produce cholecalciferol comes from. Though skin cells can make cholesterol and, presumably, 7-dehydrocholesterol.)
 

mpe

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craig81 said:
One theory that the reason vitamin D levels are so low in the population is because of our over consumption of calcium. Calcium is a healthy nutrient; but only when it is taken within a proper ratio with magnesium. The problem we have is that our population no longer drinks hard water, which was magnesium rich.

Hard water can be rich in either calcium or magnesium salts. Even if tap water is soft people can drink bottled hard water should they choose to.

Nor do we consume a nutrient rich diet in whole foods - and so the calcium magnesium balance is out of whack. Calcium can be Jekyll or it can be Hyde. With magnesium in a proper ratio it is beneficial. Without sufficient magnesium it can become toxic within the body over the longer term. Or so the theory goes. The body is very complicated. I'm actually in awe of how complicated we are.

This sort of thing is hardly uncommon. Na & K also appear to need to be in balance. They have a similar relationship on the periodic table to Ca & Mg.

One obvious source of Mg is chlorophyll. All forms containing an Mg++ ion.