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Ken Cowley

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Hi,

I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 and am looking for help and advice, I thought I'd introduce myself. I'm a 46 year old software architect/developer who has been an active gym dweller. I have not done much training over the past year due to work etc, but has restarted this week.
 

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Welcome to the forum Ken. How are your BG levels now ? If you have any questions, ask away. If not, have a trawl through the forum, some great info here !


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Hi Ken, welcome to the club. You'll get lots of info here. Looks like your body is telling you to get back into the gym. Find out what your HbA1c level is from you nurse/GP and get to understand what it means. Get yourself a glucose meter, understand when to take your readings and start monitoring your glucose levels. Cut out sugar and reduce your carbs.
 

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Hi Ken and welcome to the forum:)

Here is some information which I hope you will find useful. If there is anything you need to know just ask and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Ken Cowley

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Hi,

my BG level was 14.4 when tested on Wednesday evening, during my two fasting blood tests it was 18.7 and 16.5 respectively. I have cut out refined sugar but have been told to eat more slow release carbs.
 

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Hi,

my BG level was 14.4 when tested on Wednesday evening, during my two fasting blood tests it was 18.7 and 16.5 respectively. I have cut out refined sugar but have been told to eat more slow release carbs.
Slow release carbs are better than quick release but you should still limit these Ken. This will help lower your levels further. You can eat lots of meat, fish, eggs, cheese etc but try to limit your rice, pasta and potatoes.


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Joe Sweatthang

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Hi,

my BG level was 14.4 when tested on Wednesday evening, during my two fasting blood tests it was 18.7 and 16.5 respectively. I have cut out refined sugar but have been told to eat more slow release carbs.
Ken, No spuds, pasta, white rice...All the starchy stuff including white bread. Even whole meal bread flogged in supermarkets can be suspect. All sugars, refined or otherwise and limit food products that contain sugar. Cut booze intake dramatically. Many diabetes nurses will tell you to maintain carps in your diet, mine did. I chose to ignore her advice and find out for myself. If you take a glucose reading just before and 2 hours after eating you will see for yourself what foods have done you now favours.
 

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Hi, as others have said, yes do have low-GI carbs in preference to high-GI but you don't need to have 'more' but less overall carbs
 

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We obviously dont know your alcohol intake but unless you drink to access there is no need to worry about alcohol as a diabetic but you may have a problem with carbs Some of us find that a glass of wine with a meal has no effect on their BGs
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Welcome to the forum Ken :)
 

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Hi, I am also new to the forum. Been type 2 for 10years. I am a 50 year old nurse. I type novomix 30 and metformin. I have just been diagnosed with background retinopathy. I have a very sweet tooth. Any suggestions on how I can curb ?y sweet tooth

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Hi, I am also new to the forum. Been type 2 for 10years. I am a 50 year old nurse. I type novomix 30 and metformin. I have just been diagnosed with background retinopathy. I have a very sweet tooth. Any suggestions on how I can curb ?y sweet tooth

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Welcome Angela, cure a sweet tooth ? I wish ! Just have to limit yourself unfortunately or go with better options such as natural yoghurt with berries or sugar free jelly or similar !


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Hi mate are you diet controlled or on meds ? I,m 4 months into this and have had a steep learning curve, but it,s do able and can be controlled without upsetting your life, low carb was the godsend for me and this site is amazing for info and real life experience.Just ask questions and someone will be along to give you good advice. ATB Dave.
 

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Whelks,winkles... All crustaceous seafood except prawns. Can't do crab.lobster or scallops.
Don't like the way they are killed and cooked. Save our Scallops. SOS !!!
Also HATE evaporated milk.
Had a blood test in 2008 and was told I was prediabetic and to "Watch what I ate". Nothing else. I joined this forum then but still the penny didn't drop.
Had another blood test in June 2013 and I was 48mmol....... (Forgotten the other numbers.....

Adppted a strict low carb diet and my last blood test is 44 mmol. Improvement but I take absolutely no exercise so if I could just get off my **** I could improve things even more.

If you exercise and low carb you will be much better off.

Welcome to the forum. Some great advice here from some truly great folk.....
 
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Joe Sweatthang

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We obviously dont know your alcohol intake but unless you drink to access there is no need to worry about alcohol as a diabetic but you may have a problem with carbs Some of us find that a glass of wine with a meal has no effect on their BGs
CAROL
I just treated myself to a curry feast. No rice and I am stuffed. The bear was really good too.