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carol65

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Hi im new here, have been diagnosed with type 2 and being treated with diet only. I am being confused with all the information that Ive received. One of the things I would like to know is Ive been advised to do pin prick tests with a meter at home which was supplied to meby a nurse at diabetic clinic. But my doctor and nurse at surgery said I dont need to use one yet and wont let me have prescription for extra needles. Do I need one or should I push for prescription as what some people have said to do.

Any help would be appreciated thank you

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daisy1

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Hi Carol and welcome to the forum:)

I don't want to overload you too much with information, but this is the advice we give to new members, to read when you feel like it. I think you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

AndyH1

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Hi Carol,

I'm new on here but have been a T2 for about 10 years. I have a BG meter and have been issued with strips from day one. I was diet controlled, then on meds, came off meds a few years ago, and back on now as BS levels were unacceptably high. Throughout all this time, I have had test strips. I didn't always use them, and I should have.

My opinion is that T2's should test, gives you greater knowledge of how your control is, and what foods and eating habits are good or bad. If you look thru some of the threads on here, you will see that many T2's do test and recommend it. I believe NICE also suggest access to testing.

The reason GP's try to avoid issuing strips is the cost, they aren't cheap. It's not the lancets that are the problem. The test strips are over £20 for 50.

You might have a battle with your GP to get them issued, but it's worth it. If you can't get them issued then there is a budget meter available for which the strips are much cheaper, about £7 for 50. You can get it on Ebay.

Also, remember, once you go on meds you are entitled to Medical Exemption Certificate, which means all your prescriptions will be free, regardless of your financial status, or what they are for.

Hope that helps.

Andy
 
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mo1905

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Self testing is the only way to see how your body reacts to certain foods/exercise etc. I would certainly ask for one but many docs won't give them out on prescription unless you are on certain meds or insulin. Lots of manufacturers give the meters away free if you can self fund the strips. Can't hurt to ask. Good luck.
 

Karen.G.

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Hi Carol - I would definitely ask your diabetic nurse to send a letter to your Drs explaining that she has requested that you do the tests.

I am always astounded by Drs/Nurses that state Type 2's do not need to test as it is the only way that you know what's happening and it is a valuable tool for managing your diabetes.

Good luck with getting your Dr's Practice to see sense.
 

Beshlie

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I agree with the others. testing is the only way to know what may spike you. My Dr said I didn't need to test but I wasn't comfortable with that so I fund my own meter and strips.
 

NotSoSweet2

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I can't get a meter either and yet I got a letter from my GP to say that my type 2 diabetes was getting worse, why are they so recluctant to supply meters? Cost?????
 

tbird37

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Hi I was on meds only for T2 but at Xmas had a hypo made appointment at doctors. Blood test done and sent away phone call from diabetic nurse saying they were putting me on metformin to control my blood sugar after speaking to my doctor. I asked about meter was told didn't need one at the moment went out and got my own.


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tbird37

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Hi I was on diet only for T2 but at Xmas had a hypo made appointment at doctors. Blood test done and sent away phone call from diabetic nurse saying they were putting me on metformin to control my blood sugar after speaking to my doctor. I asked about meter was told didn't need one at the moment went out and got my own.


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Carol-P

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This is another Carol coming in here! As a new be, I also found this very interesting and informative. I have been wanting to know the answer to questions about carbs, so now can think some more on this one! I'm trying to do a bit of both but don't know that I'm succeeding too well in either! Smiley


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