Low Carb Diet Question

willen123

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I was diagnosed with type 2 in january of this year and after reading some of the great stuff on here decided to start following a low carb diet (for me its generally <100 carbs per day). The weight has been dropping off and Im very happy with the results so far. A well meaning relation has sent me the following and I was wondering if following a low carb diet is really the right thing to do? Any comments from people?

"So what are the hidden dangers of a low carbohydrate (AKA “ketogenic”) diet?

Here are the low carbohydrate risks, in ten steps:

1. Your body stores carbohydrate, mostly in your liver and muscles, in the form of glycogen. Depending on your size, you can store roughly in the range of 1500-2000 calories of storage carbohydrate (although that number is fairly variable based on your fitness and size).

2. If you’re sedentary and don’t really exercise much (which I don’t encourage), this amount of storage carbohydrate is more than sufficient to get you through a typical day. Really, your body only needs a maximum of 600 calories of carbohydrate to survive each day – and that carbohydrate can be derived from diet, or from you own storage glycogen.

3. But if you’re active and at the same time consuming a low carbohydrate diet, you can easily burn through your liver and muscle glycogen stores in anywhere from 2 days to a couple weeks. The nice part about this, if you’re trying to lose weight, is that since glycogen carries up to four times it’s weight in water, a low carbohydrate diet can quickly shed 5-10 pounds (or more), which seems quite satisfactory. But the problem is, most of what you’ve lost is A) energy to sustain intense physical activity and B) water.

4. So now you have very little storage carbohydrate and are potentially dehydrated. If you’re an athlete or a physically active individual, this means that you’re limited to utilizing fat as a fuel for energy. Fat, through a process called “beta-oxidation”, can provide tens of thousands of calories of readily utilizable fuel, but the problem is that it burns far more slowly than carbohydrate.

5. This means that if you’re on a strict low carbohydrate diet, you can say goodbye to intense weight training, track intervals, or just about any activity that would be consider “tempo”, “threshold”, or “intervals”. And this is the stuff that adds lean muscle to your body, boosts your metabolism and gets you fit fast – compared to a slow and sluggish slog in your “fat-burning zone”. This is not negotiable by your body. It is simple physiology. When you deplete muscle glycogen, there is a directly proportional increase in muscle fatigue, and also an increase in muscle catabolism (direct metabolism of your body’s own muscle protein, or conversion of that protein into glucose via gluconeogenesis). Many people on a low-carbohydrate diet simply stop exercising, because it can suck so much.

6. As you lose muscle mass, your already handicapped metabolism drops even more. I will acknowledge that muscle fibers don’t burn as many calories or boost your metabolism as much as we all like to think, but this is still an important consideration for those trying to maintain lean muscle mass or tone.

7. For active people, this trouble may all be “in vain”. Since physically active individuals and athletes are far more sensitive to insulin and less susceptible to blood sugar fluctuations, any attempt to eat low carbohydrate in conjunction with exercise, for the pure purpose of “controlling blood sugar levels” could be a mostly unnecessary endeavor anyways.

8. Low carbohydrate diets, if implemented improperly, result in low fiber intake from a sharp reduction in plant-based food consumption, which can increase risk of digestive cancers and cardiovascular disease, and also leads to constipation and bowel issues. In addition, a drop in fruit, vegetables, legume and grain consumption can result in inadequate phytonutrient, antioxidant, vitamin C and potassium intake. Many (but not all) low carbohydrate diets have these problems.

9. Typical “low carbohydrate” meal replacement bars and shakes, ice creams or ice cream sandwiches, and other low carb or sugar-free snacks often contain potentially unhealthy ingredients like maltitol, and are chock full of preservatives and highly processed ingredients. If your low carbohydrate diet involves boxed, wrapped and packaged food, it probably falls into this category.

10. There can be long term health issues as your body is chronically carbohydrate depleted over extended periods of time. Your liver is exposed to extra stress as it is forced to assist with manufacturing glucose from fats and proteins, potentially toxic amounts of ammonia are produced as proteins are converted into glucose, your body has a more difficult time producing mucus and the immune system becomes impaired as risk of pathogenic infection increases, and your body loses the ability to produce compounds called glycoproteins, which are vital to cellular functions.



Read more: http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com...ers-of-a-low-carbohydrate-diet/#ixzz2vxVCZCZG"
 

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I'm a low carber. I've been training for a half marathon and I'm doing nine miles in an hour at the moment. I've also recently given up rugby, I used to go to the gym around 4 times per week, train on the rugby pitch once and have a game on the weekend. So the suggestion that you can't sustain high intensity exercise on a low carb diet is rubbish.

Your liver produces glucose from protein and fats every minute of the day and it's perfectly capable of increasing production.

The problem is, is that there's a load of **** on the internet, particularly from fitness websites. So the best thing that you can do is to have a go at low carbing and look at the blood results you get at your check-up. This includes tests for lipids, liver, kidney and HbA1c. If they come back ok, then you're good to stick at it.

My results have always come back fine; HbA1c has been significantly improved. So that says to me that it is doing me no harm.
 
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hi, i am also training for a marathon (3 weeks eeek) so it has to make you wonder about what is being said here, if a liver get stressed i dunno what metformin does to our livers as its mets job to stop the liver producing glucose (as far as i know) im not sure about the lean muscle thing but my legs are so muscular now with all the running my wife reckons they looked deformed lol charming, my advice is listen to people that have done it and lived to tell the tail, the evidence for me is overwhelming but you can always find a study to contradict , im sure if i tried i could find a study that advises eating bogeys
 

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Ewwww l remember seeing a tv prog where they were having a baby party with said babys placenta cooked and served :-(

And my PT likes the low carb he calls it clean eating (no processed food) is a lowish carber /paleo diet and exceedingly fit. l am getting fitter and have around 30g carbs a day. Training for total warrior race in august...I am not sure why l am doing it one of those good ideas....and l was sober when l made the decision.
Good luck on your marathon Andy:)
 
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Reading their idea of a low carb diet bares no resemblence to any diet l know or am on. l eat loads more veg and salad than l did. l dont eat bread used to eat about 4 to 6 slices a day. l do eat eggs meat butter cheese berries have no sugar or sugar replacement l have cream in coffee and on my berries a 250 ml of milk at night. lf excercise l have protein powder in my milk and since when is ice cream low carb? or the rest of the stuff they mention that looks like junk food.
Whoever wrote that never did low carb. l bought an Atkins bar as just done a hard walk and not sure it the protein drink would do on the walk or if l would get hungry...l still have the bar first one l ever bought.
 

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The listed carbo risks contain a mix of good fact and guesswork. What proof is there that the liver gets 'overstressed' handling fat burn etc. If you get dehydrated drink more water; simples. It takes a while for the body to get used to ketosis and most low-carbers don't do zero carbs. Anyone who does heavy workouts probably doesn't need to do very low-carb anyway as they are getting stacks of exercise.
 

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I'm a low carber. I've been training for a half marathon and I'm doing nine miles in an hour at the moment. I've also recently given up rugby, I used to go to the gym around 4 times per week, train on the rugby pitch once and have a game on the weekend. So the suggestion that you can't sustain high intensity exercise on a low carb diet is rubbish.

Your liver produces glucose from protein and fats every minute of the day and it's perfectly capable of increasing production.

The problem is, is that there's a load of **** on the internet, particularly from fitness websites. So the best thing that you can do is to have a go at low carbing and look at the blood results you get at your check-up. This includes tests for lipids, liver, kidney and HbA1c. If they come back ok, then you're good to stick at it.

My results have always come back fine; HbA1c has been significantly improved. So that says to me that it is doing me no harm.


Out of interest, how do you get on with building muscle mass on keto? I tried it once, gave up pretty sharply as food bills were soaring.
 

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Apologies if I'm hijacking the thread, but did you guys who low carb have any serious symptoms in the first week or so? I'm keen to give it a try but I'm just worried about the effect on the central nervous system as it takes around 5 days for it to adjust to burning ketones.
 

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Out of interest, how do you get on with building muscle mass on keto? I tried it once, gave up pretty sharply as food bills were soaring.
Fine, I just got myself into a decent hypertrophy routine. I've never, however, been in ketosis. I've low carbed, between the 30-59g range and never had any ketones. So I'm either eating all the carbs I need or my liver is creating enough.

XIX, I've never had any untoward symptoms of low carbing. Never heard of any affect on the nervous system. The only symptom I've had is a much better HbA1c!
 
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Apologies if I'm hijacking the thread, but did you guys who low carb have any serious symptoms in the first week or so? I'm keen to give it a try but I'm just worried about the effect on the central nervous system as it takes around 5 days for it to adjust to burning ketones.
The first time I tried it I got flu-like symptoms, so I backed-off to 120g/day. Then I tried reducing daily carbs slowly and was able to get down to 30g/day without symptoms. I normally have ketones around 0.5 sometimes up to 1.5
 

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Apologies if I'm hijacking the thread, but did you guys who low carb have any serious symptoms in the first week or so? I'm keen to give it a try but I'm just worried about the effect on the central nervous system as it takes around 5 days for it to adjust to burning ketones.

Google "Atkins flu"
 

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Drink lots of water if lchf it helps you stabilise and keeps you stable. l had a headache for a few days not massive just a poke. Oh and know if not enough water get constipation
 

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Also,don't deliberately avoid salt in your food as you will lose sodium as well as water during the early days whilst your body adjusts to burning fat instead of sugar.
 
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Ive been doing Tkjns for 13 days now.....adjusted my basal up a bit and after a lot of novo to correct im now taking approx 4 units at a meal as its needed for me even with no carb....dr said not to take novo on no carb but I need it obviously.....bloods a little better last 24 hours but no weight loss

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