My nurse put me on metformin about a year ago but two weeks ago added Gliclazide,i am quite over weight and been trying to lose it ,managed to lose just over a stone since christmas but gained 3lb in last few weeks and i'm now low carbing,i've read these tablets are weight gainers is there another tablet i could ask for cause gaining weight is the last thing i need.The nurse is always on my back about losing weight and now i am she gives me these tablets :roll: shan x
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Hi Shan,
What was the reason for your nurse adding gliclazide? Have your blood sigar levels been reducing since you reduded the carbs?
What was the reason for your nurse adding gliclazide? Have your blood sigar levels been reducing since you reduded the carbs?
Hi Dennis,nurse put me on the gliclazide because when she got my blood test back she said my blood sugar was sky high,but she told me i must eat carbs every meal like jacket spuds ,sandwiches,and such like she would hit the roof if i told her i am low carbing.I only started to test my own bloods from sunday this week and it's read mostly 14.5 but tonight after a couple of hours after my tea i was 7.3 so i was pleased but i only have one test strip left and my nurse won't give me a meter i bought my own so i can't test again from tomorrow.So i think low carbing may of started to help but why don't the gp's and d.nurses see this, :? shan x
Shan,
Is it possible for you to buy some test strips from your chemists. You can buy them over the counter without a prescription. I appreciate that they are a bit expensive at around £25 for a pack of 50, but this is your life we are talking about. Isn't that worth £25?
Is it possible for you to buy some test strips from your chemists. You can buy them over the counter without a prescription. I appreciate that they are a bit expensive at around £25 for a pack of 50, but this is your life we are talking about. Isn't that worth £25?
I'm going to the doctors next week trying to go behind the nurses back and ask the doctor to give me some,money is tight at the moment as i'm now out of work(shop shut) and also got teenagers to feed so £25 is a lot but if i have to i'll save and get some,shan x
I got some strips on ebay under half price, 100 strips and lancets for 31 quid. If you can't persuade your doc to do it, that might be one way to try! 
I have never had a problem getting any testing equipment free through my Doctor or hospital including free meter are different health areas governed by different rules?
Hi Dave,
Test meters are not and never have been available on the NHS. What happens is that the meter manufacturers have reps who visit GP surgeries all over the country and give away samples. Some doctors/nurses are happy to give those samples to patients who they think will be able to understand and use them to good advantage.
Testing strips and lancets are a different matter. Once you have a meter, whether you were given it or you bought one yourself, the strips and lancets are available on NHS prescription. However, with increasing numbers of people being diagnosed as diabetic, the PCTs (who control how NHS money is spent in each region of the country) are trying to reduce costs by telling GPs not to prescribe test strips. Some doctors believe that patients benefit from self-testing and are prepared to prescribe, despite protestations from the PCTs. It sounds like your doctor may be one of these. Other doctors also know that a patient who can't test can never have control of their diabetes, but they are afraid of upsetting their PCTs so they refuse to either give away testers or to prescribe test strips. I just don't know how these doctors can sleep at night, knowing that their cowardice will result in the premature death of many of their patients.
Test meters are not and never have been available on the NHS. What happens is that the meter manufacturers have reps who visit GP surgeries all over the country and give away samples. Some doctors/nurses are happy to give those samples to patients who they think will be able to understand and use them to good advantage.
Testing strips and lancets are a different matter. Once you have a meter, whether you were given it or you bought one yourself, the strips and lancets are available on NHS prescription. However, with increasing numbers of people being diagnosed as diabetic, the PCTs (who control how NHS money is spent in each region of the country) are trying to reduce costs by telling GPs not to prescribe test strips. Some doctors believe that patients benefit from self-testing and are prepared to prescribe, despite protestations from the PCTs. It sounds like your doctor may be one of these. Other doctors also know that a patient who can't test can never have control of their diabetes, but they are afraid of upsetting their PCTs so they refuse to either give away testers or to prescribe test strips. I just don't know how these doctors can sleep at night, knowing that their cowardice will result in the premature death of many of their patients.
Thanks for that post Dennis, I hope that it will lay to rest the assumption that some people have about test strips. It is all down to your Doctor and large numbers of Type 2's are being refused. Because you may be one of the lucky ones, (yes it is luck and your Doctor's good knowledge about their use,if you are prescribed them), other people do not have the luxury of testing. Buying the test strips is an expensive option and due to people's personal finances it is not always possibly. Complaining on other people's behalf is a good option and you can write to your M.P. expressing your concerns. Maybe enough people complaining might reverse this ridiculous situation.
Very interesting I was not aware of this,I have been getting the strips etc. for over 10 years now my Doctor is very good and I believe I get excellant support from him and from all the diabetes staff I have contact with in my area
I'm going to see doctor on wednesday so i'll let you know if i got the test strips or not but i would still like to know if there is another tablet than Gliclazide i could ask for i'm on Metaformin as well,as i said i was losing weight but since i've been low carbing i've put on 3lb and from what others have said i should be losing weight doing low carb, :? shan x
When you see the Dr. explain that you are not happy with the weight gain and that you would like to try something else. As you gradually get your diabetes under control you may be able to reduce your meds.
Catherine.
Catherine.
Hi Shandra,
as far as I know, Metformin is the only oral antidiabetic medicine which does NOT cause weight gain.
There is Byetta, which is injected, but they don't like to prescribe it because it's very expensive. Otherwise you might try asking for Starlix, which is taken with each meal. You don't need to take it if your meal is very low in carbs.
I used to have gliclazide and got off it by strict low carbs. I still take Metformin, which I see as safe.
as far as I know, Metformin is the only oral antidiabetic medicine which does NOT cause weight gain.
There is Byetta, which is injected, but they don't like to prescribe it because it's very expensive. Otherwise you might try asking for Starlix, which is taken with each meal. You don't need to take it if your meal is very low in carbs.
I used to have gliclazide and got off it by strict low carbs. I still take Metformin, which I see as safe.
Maybe there's something weird about my body chemistry, but I lost stacks of weight very quickly after beginning treatment with gliclazide.
Horses for courses, I suppose.
Horses for courses, I suppose.
Hi Shan,
There is another alternative to gliclazide. This is Amaryl (also known as glimepiride). This is a sulphonylurea treatment, like gliclazide, but is newer, is less harsh on the pancreas and doesn't encourage weight gain as much as gliclazide.
There is another alternative to gliclazide. This is Amaryl (also known as glimepiride). This is a sulphonylurea treatment, like gliclazide, but is newer, is less harsh on the pancreas and doesn't encourage weight gain as much as gliclazide.
Thank you for all the reply's and infomation,i'll ask my doctor if i can swap tablets i'll let you know on wednesday what happens,shan x
Hi Shan, I was put on metformin and lost loads of weight, then balanced out, then my nurse put me on Gliclazide about a month ago, and I have just lost another half a stone without trying, so I put it down to the increase in Gliclazide.
Test strips, I normaly get on perscription but I ran out and the docs was closed the other week so I went to the chemist in my local asda store, I asked could I buy some and they sold me some for £5.00 this was for my Accu-check Aviva test meter.
So don't assume the Gliclazide is gonna make you gain weight as it might work the other way as it's done with me.
Mark
Test strips, I normaly get on perscription but I ran out and the docs was closed the other week so I went to the chemist in my local asda store, I asked could I buy some and they sold me some for £5.00 this was for my Accu-check Aviva test meter.
So don't assume the Gliclazide is gonna make you gain weight as it might work the other way as it's done with me.
Mark
Bypass the clueless nurse and go see the doctor. Take him the test results you have obtained so far.
Ummm, doctors can be and have been sacked for prescribing too much, and for making too many referrals to specialists. Then they'd be even less use <sigh>
Dennis said:
Ummm, doctors can be and have been sacked for prescribing too much, and for making too many referrals to specialists. Then they'd be even less use <sigh>
