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chunterer

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Hello everyone.
I did a bit of self-diagnosis and rang my GPs surgery to request a BG blood test and someone came to my house to do it on Tuesday (I should explain I am also agoraphobic and have other ailments including obesity) and that evening at 9 PM got a phone call from the Our of Hours doctors to see if I needed to be seen that night.
My blood test reading was 20.7 but fortunately that was not a fasting test so it was not as urgent.
I rang my GPs the next morning and the hospital had sent the result to them and that had been forwarded to the Practice Nurse so it was all in hand.
Because it is now the weekend I feel a little "cast adrift" and can't settle myself mentally. I have lost 2 1/2 stones since just before Christmas without trying to diet so foodwise I'm uncertain what to have.
I keep wondering when I will hear from the Practice Nurse, has anyone any idea how long I may have to wait? I live in Blackpool, Lancashire.
Best wishes, Shirley
 

jack412

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Hi, it may take a week to sort out for you, in the mean time, I would just reduce the major carbs like sugary stuff..grain product, bread, pasta and starchy veg..potato.
eat everything else as you wish. and eggs and bacon for breakfast

there some very good low carb diets that can help with your weight loss and blood sugar levels.
if you have any questions there is always someone here that can point you in the right direction, NHS 24/7 can be a help afterhours.

without trying to worry you, there is only one thing I would watch out for..
they would have tested for ketones but just to keep in mind..weight loss without trying can mean that your pancreas isn't putting out enough insulin.
if I got stomach/back cramps or feel sick/throw up.. I would ring an urgent service to come and test for DKA ketones.
If it's easy, I'd get urine ketostiks from the chemist, to home test for ketones for now. they cost about 5 pound.
 
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chunterer

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That's brilliant, thank you very much, especially the eggs & bacon breakfast - I've been craving that.
The other thing I've been craving is Weetabix with skimmed milk and dry Water Biscuits!
I have been worrying about Ketones. I'll see if my brother will go to a chemist for me tomorrow.
Thanks again.
 
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daisy1

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@chunterer

Hello Chunterer and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially on the subject of diet. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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jack412

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That's brilliant, thank you very much, especially the eggs & bacon breakfast - I've been craving that.
The other thing I've been craving is Weetabix with skimmed milk and dry Water Biscuits!
I have been worrying about Ketones. I'll see if my brother will go to a chemist for me tomorrow.
Thanks again.
sorry, I'd stick to bacon and eggs or leftover vegi and egg, weetabix is a grain product..
I'd have full fat cream in your coffee, no skim milk high carb rubbish.
with LCHF and metformin, I've lost 13kg and my bloods are normal now

if the Dr wont provide blood glucose strips, the cheapest is SD codefree meter
http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code ..5 packs 264086
 
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chunterer

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Now I've heard I can have bacon and eggs (my favourite meal), I'll amend my shopping list. I've had skimmed milk for donkeys years and hadn't considered its carbs content. Thanks for the link for the BG strips too.
 

chunterer

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Daisy1, thanks very much for your help and welcome. I'm sure this forum will be a fantastic aid to living with diabetes. x
 
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Mike d

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Welcome Shirley

As Jack suggested, I'd just skip the weetabix and then watch your figures. Some people are OK with them but many are not. Count me into that latter group

Mike
 
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Brunneria

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Hi and welcome!

Sounds like you are hitting the ground running. :D
Well done.
And hope you enjoy the forum. Were a friendly bunch, and feel free to ask anything you like. There's usually someone around to help out.
 
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Paul59

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Daisy1, thanks very much for your help and welcome. I'm sure this forum will be a fantastic aid to living with diabetes. x
Hi & welcme.
I personally think there is no better place to learn about controlling this condition than from those that live with it & you've landed at the right place. There is lots of help available to help you in your quest

Just ask & the answer to your question will be there.
Welcome aboard.
 
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chunterer

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Thanks to you all. I rang my GPs this morning and the receptionist told me I am down for a home visit on Friday morning from a nurse so it would have been a very long week without your help and support. The surgery is never the best at communication but I would have thought they could have let me know what was going on. I'm wondering if it would be wise to buy a blood monitor so I can keep an eye on my levels to help me cope while the surgery start to help. What do you think?
 

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Hi Shirley, yes, get a meter , you'll soon learn what spikes your blood sugars and what doesn't - basically "eat to your meter" . As regards keytones, my 1st visit to gp showed my urine was riddled with them, but by the time I saw the diabetes nurse 2 weeks later and was eating low carb they had vanished. I always have this forum open and whilst I am not a prolific poster I find it very reassuring to read real life diabetics handing out sound advice - I have learned a huge amount and I know there will always be more to learn. I wish you all the very best .
 
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