Day one and hello

Tm6t7

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Hello everyone, I was diagnosed as type 2 this morning and immediately prescribed metformin 500mg a day (to be taken in the evening).
I stopped smoking in January and haven't missed it (cold turkey) I noticed a slight thirst creeping in and initially thought it may be detoxing, then became more lethargic and blurry vision, so off to the docs I went...blood test and next day booked in to see the doc.
I am going to have a small red wine this evening as it looks like I wont be having any for some time :) (not a big drinker anyway), very keen on the lchf control so any advice or tips will be gratefully received, I am going to order the Dr.Deakin Eat Fat book but until then...my brain is a sponge :)
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Tom
 
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Lexa_x

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Im not the best person to give advice as im still learning but welcome to the forum! I would highly recommend lchf. My typical readings at the start were 13/14 now im usually 5 -7 a bit higher if I cheat lol.

Other will be along soon to give much better advise :)
 

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Welcome .... there's no escape now!
 
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Tm6t7

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Hi and thanks for the reply, I guess it's a steep learning curve :) good to hear you are doing well..are you taking metformin or diet controlled? :)
 

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Hello and welcome to the club,

Enjoy your wine, if it's relatively dry and the sugar has fermented it is low carb.

Well done on the smoking. I quit almost a year ago and found it surprisingly easy. I wish I could have some of that cash back. As to diet, there's a lot to learn about. You'll miss some things, but can add others that you used to consider unhealthy. Whipped or riced cauliflower is an acceptable substitute for mash or rice (except for some days, when it simply isn't!) My fridge is never empty of double cream and a few strawberries now.

Try pancakes made with egg, cream cheese and powdered sweetener with blueberries for breakfast when you get over the thrill of bacon and sausage. I have yet to find a cake or biscuit that I really love, and still hate pork scratchings even at zero carb, but it could all be worse.

Get yourself a meter and try not to let your food spike you more than two points, less if possible.

We're all nosy here, so get ready to answer questions about your first results - HbA1c (blood test) etc. It won't mean much to you now, but hopefully you will be proud of the drop soon.

Helen
 

Tm6t7

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Thanks Helen, I've been spying on here for a few days so after diagnosis I went to work and then to the shop for some 'healthy ' food :) probably forgot lots but made it home with strawberries, grapes, natural yoghurt bacon etc etc, thought that I will start metformin tomorrow as I think it's not good with wine?
 

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Thanks Helen, I've been spying on here for a few days so after diagnosis I went to work and then to the shop for some 'healthy ' food :) probably forgot lots but made it home with strawberries, grapes, natural yoghurt bacon etc etc, thought that I will start metformin tomorrow as I think it's not good with wine?
No grapes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm on Metformin and alcohol with no problems.
 

Tm6t7

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I guess I'll have to get used to the metformin before having a little glass of wine now and again :)
 

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@Tm6t7

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

First of all, congratulations on giving up smoking. I know how difficult that is! Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Tm6t7

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Hi Daisy and thank you, I'm sure I will have plenty of questions in due course, happy to be among friends (and wise ones too )
 
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JTL

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Tm6t7

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Ah, I have appt with nurse next week and should be getting a bs test kit...but I will take your word for it, which fruits are ok. I know everyone is different but kind of a rule of thumb if possible?
 

Tm6t7

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Hello Ally1 and thanks for the welcome, hope you are well :)
 

Dave Brierley

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No to grapes, water melon and banana, has anyone told you that you don't need to pay for prescriptions now.
 
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Dave Brierley

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Ah, I have appt with nurse next week and should be getting a bs test kit...but I will take your word for it, which fruits are ok. I know everyone is different but kind of a rule of thumb if possible?

Tropical fruit for me is a big no no, I thought at one time I thought I could do banana's but I can't at all.

I've stopped eating apples and have brazil nuts instead.
 
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