Poll regarding X-PERT High Fat/Low Carb diet

We call on Diabetes UK to recognise the LCHF diet alongside the HCLF diet.

  • I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with LCHF

    Votes: 62 87.3%
  • I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with the standard HCLF diet

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • I have had unsatisfactory results with LCHF

    Votes: 7 9.9%
  • I have had unsatisfactory results with the standard HCLF diet

    Votes: 38 53.5%

  • Total voters
    71

CollieBoy

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Sorry about this mysterious TLA (Three letter Acronym:)) Us technocrats/bureaucrats like TLAs:confused:
WoE does mean Way of Eating.
I can't recall where I picked it up from at present, but I prefer it due to the connotations of the term diet as diet implies a short term acute change whereas WoE implies that it is a long term philosophy of eating change.
 
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jack412

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How they will interpret this poll is...compared with those who see and feel the benefit of our wonderful high carb healthy grains diet. those on an unhealthy low carb high fat diet report more than 5 times higher, that it has been unsatisfactory for them.:banghead:

  1. I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with the standard HCLF diet
    1 vote(s)

  2. I have had unsatisfactory results with LCHF
    5 vote(s)
 
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catza

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Voted.

Having watched my blood sugars rising on the HCLF diet I discovered LCHF and am now recording almost non-diabetic levels.. Just glad I have been able to afford to self fund my testing supplies or else I would have had no chance of taking control of my condition..
 
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Susikav

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Voted.

Having watched my blood sugars rising on the HCLF diet I discovered LCHF and am now recording almost non-diabetic levels.. Just glad I have been able to afford to self fund my testing supplies or else I would have had no chance of taking control of my condition..
Well done... :) Absolutely... I'm the same... It was purely due to this forum that I learned how to control the BG levels... thank you everyone...
 
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IanD

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@Deakint Trudi - you may wish to incorporate this poll into your presentations.

I would appreciate advice on how to present this poll to Diabetes UK.
 
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donnellysdogs

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@Deakint Trudi - you may wish to incorporate this poll into your presentations.

I would appreciate advice on how to present this poll to Diabetes UK.

Very carefully by all accounts!!! (For presentation-lol:)
 
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Syd

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A few points spring to mind, if Diabetes Uk, or anyone else for that matter, is going to recommend LCHF as an alternative to what is pejoratively termed HCLF, then the guidelines will have to be redrawn to the effect that one could go LCHF or HCLF and therefore, logically, somewhere in between. In other words the message would be perceived as being 'eat what you like'. This might not be in anyone's best interest.

Second point, is that I read that this forum last year achieved a membership of over 100,000. I appreciate that many are not active contributors but even so this poll (at present) represents a very small sample and its validity may be challenged on the grounds that it was likely to attract the more radical and vocal low carbers to vote.

Third point, the guidelines issued by the NHS and Diabetes UK and the American Diabetes Association are precisely that, guidelines and as such are for the obedience of fools and guidance of wise men (or women). As excess weight (i.e obesity) is the main cause of Type 2 Diabetes then any diet which is (1) sustainable and (2) leads to loss of weight , is perhaps one which the official bodies should sanction. That they do not do so now is because of the long standing, and some might say irrational, fear that consumption of fat, especially saturated animal fat, will contribute to heart disease. That IMHO is where the battleground lies.
 
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donnellysdogs

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Diabetes.co.uk seem to have revised their front page of the dietary advice? I'm sure it was worded differently a few weeks ago when I was appalled..

It seems moderate advice now?
 

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As excess weight (i.e obesity) is the main cause of Type 2 Diabetes.

Oh good grief not that again ... :banghead:
 
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IanD

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Oh good grief not that again ... :banghead:

Note the context ...

Third point, the guidelines issued by the NHS and Diabetes UK and the American Diabetes Association are precisely that, guidelines and as such are for the obedience of fools and guidance of wise men (or women). As excess weight (i.e obesity) is the main cause of Type 2 Diabetes then any diet which is (1) sustainable and (2) leads to loss of weight , is perhaps one which the official bodies should sanction. That they do not do so now is because of the long standing, and some might say irrational, fear that consumption of fat, especially saturated animal fat, will contribute to heart disease. That IMHO is where the battleground lies.
 
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zand

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Note the context ...
I take your point Ian but....whilst there is indeed a link between obesity and diabetes, does obesity cause type 2 diabetes ? or does insulin resistance (diabetes) cause obesity?

I would like to be taller than my 5 feet 4 inches so I'm going to start playing basketball........;)
 
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al_leister

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Everyone should complete this Poll.
I think if the headling was changed to "Please Please, complete this Poll" or something like that it might encourage more people to get involved. The current number of voters is poor!
 
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