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ChrissyB57

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Hi, I have just been reading this forum, I have today been diagnosed my fasting blood test results came in at 62, I am hopeful that I now have an answer as to why I have been feeling so unwell for some time, did not really consider diabetes at all, as although I am 57 years old, I am not overweight, I eat a well balanced diet, although perhaps I could do with taking more exercise I am not a complete couch potato, I do walk a fair bit and swim. So advice to a very confused lady would be very grateful.
Thank you Chrissy
 

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Hello :) a lot of us here were in exactly your position - we know how it feels.

The first advice is don't blame yourself,

The second advice is get to know your condition from sources like this site.

The third advice is be prepared to turn much of what our generation has been taught is healthy eating on it's head. Many here have found great success in dealing with type 2 diabetes by not following the NHS diet advice and cutting out allmost all carbohydrates and replacing them with fatty food and greens.
 
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Hello Chrissy, welcome
Diet is the key to getting your glucose levels down, medication and exercise help but your diet has the biggest impact. Unfortunately what is considered a healthy balanced diet is doing you no favours at all. You need to learn as much as you can about diabetes so that you can work out a diet that will suit you and get your levels down. Here's a link to some basic information that will get you started http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.26870/
Many people find that a low carb diet is the best way to get things under control, some here's a link to so low carb information http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/u/gettingstarted.htm
 
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Hi, thank you for your reply, I am looking at the low carb diet, and think that I could get used to the full fat version of foods, I love butter, just started to like cheese as well, the bread and potatoes will be hard, but worth it health wise, just a lifestyle change.
 
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ChrissyB57

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Hello Chrissy, welcome
Diet is the key to getting your glucose levels down, medication and exercise help but your diet has the biggest impact. Unfortunately what is considered a healthy balanced diet is doing you no favours at all. You need to learn as much as you can about diabetes so that you can work out a diet that will suit you and get your levels down. Here's a link to some basic information that will get you started http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.26870/
Many people find that a low carb diet is the best way to get things under control, some here's a link to so low carb information http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/u/gettingstarted.htm
Thank you, there is a lt to take it at once, and trying to absorb as much information is difficult.
 
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I agree Chrissy, its not easy but you have the rest of your life to learn how to deal with it, small steps rather than giant leaps is the way to go.
 
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Hi and welcome. Yes, do try the lower-carb diet. If the blood suagr doesn't come down you may need to start some meds. If all this doesn't do the job then do ask the GP to consider T1 rather than T2 as the right diagnosis as being slim at diagnosis regardless of age is always a possibility and the medication route is different.
 
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Hi and welcome. Yes, do try the lower-carb diet. If the blood suagr doesn't come down you may need to start some meds. If all this doesn't do the job then do ask the GP to consider T1 rather than T2 as the right diagnosis as being slim at diagnosis regardless of age is always a possibility and the medication route is different.
I have been put on Metformin 500g one in the morning and one at night, but I want to control as much as possible, so armed with shopping list. Got my appointment on Monday with the DN, happy days
 
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Hi Chrissy :)

Welcome to the forum. There's a lot of info here to help you and many supportive members.

I'm going to tag @daisy1 and she'll give you the information for newly diagnosed members soon.
 
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@ChrissyB57

Hello Chrissy and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and it gives plenty of advice about carbs. I hope you will find it useful. Go ahead and ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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ChrissyB57

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Hi Chrissy :)

Welcome to the forum. There's a lot of info here to help you and many supportive members.

I'm going to tag @daisy1 and she'll give you the information for newly diagnosed members soon.
thankyou, by what I have seen so far on the forum, there is a lot of support and information. Brilliant to find that a site like this has been formed.
 
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ChrissyB57

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@ChrissyB57

Hello Chrissy and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and it gives plenty of advice about carbs. I hope you will find it useful. Go ahead and ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Thank you Daisy
 
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BeccyB

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I am not overweight, I eat a well balanced diet, although perhaps I could do with taking more exercise I am not a complete couch potato, I do walk a fair bit and swim. So advice to a very confused lady would be very grateful.

Hi Chrissy,

You're comments about being healthy and not overweight show the reputation diabetics have these days, thanks to the Daily Mail & co and scandalous headlines. Yes there is a link between being overweight and getting Type2 but it's definitely not the only reason you'd get it, many people are just damned unlucky!

I'm Type1 so won't be much use to you in terms of how to manage your diabetes but I know there are plenty of people here who will help you. Congratulations on finding this site so soon after diagnosis, and being proactive enough to look for it - it's a great start :)

Best wishes, Beccy
 

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Hi Chrissy

I'm the same age as you and I was diagnosed with Type 2 today as well. All this is a learning curve for me too, however, I am overweight . I've decided on a low carb diet and will be taking Metformin too. I golf, cycle and do Archery. Perhaps we can support each other?

Cheers

Kim
 

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Hi Chrissy

I'm the same age as you and I was diagnosed with Type 2 today as well. All this is a learning curve for me too, however, I am overweight . I've decided on a low carb diet and will be taking Metformin too. I golf, cycle and do Archery. Perhaps we can support each other?

Cheers

Kim
Hi Kim, I must say for me it has come as a bit of a relief to find out, as this would explain why I have been feeling so unwell for some time, I have been on the low carb diet for 1 day, went out and restocked the fridge at Aldi, they are so cheap for salads and veg, think I may need another fridge though!!! But just want to make sure that I have plenty of foods to eat without resorting to white sliced bread, that is my big love oh and chips, its going to be hard to give up chip butties, but I would rather get my health back on track, I would say that I am not hugely overweight at 5ft I weigh 9st 6lbs, but would feel a lot better to lose a stone in weight, am not a great one for exercise so need to motivate myself in some way, as I sit down all day at work, which is not good. I am off to see the nurse this morning for more blood tests, my doctors have been brilliant, and I have appointment on Monday to see the DN, I am hoping that my blood pressure comes down, as this is a big worry as I have never had high blood pressure before, don't know if this is linked to the diabetes, I have been put on Metformin 500g twice a day, doctor said may be a bit of trial and error to get the correct medication. Looking forward to my scrambled eggs and mushrooms for breakfast. How do you feel about the diagnosis, was it a shock.
 

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Hi Chrissy,

You're comments about being healthy and not overweight show the reputation diabetics have these days, thanks to the Daily Mail & co and scandalous headlines. Yes there is a link between being overweight and getting Type2 but it's definitely not the only reason you'd get it, many people are just damned unlucky!

I'm Type1 so won't be much use to you in terms of how to manage your diabetes but I know there are plenty of people here who will help you. Congratulations on finding this site so soon after diagnosis, and being proactive enough to look for it - it's a great start :)

Best wishes, Beccy
I do somehow think that this has a link with having my gall bladder taken out, I don't think that there is a complete link, but my doctor brought this up with me, I know I could do with losing a few pounds, and maybe taking more exercise, I have always been careful about what I eat, I have never had a sweet tooth, maybe a small chocolate bar around once a month, I do like white bread and potatoes, but my normal amounts a day would be 2 slices of bread, and very small portions of potatoes. I have calorie counted my daily intake to be around 1,000 calories, as I have a small appetite, but over the past 18 months I have put on a stone and a half in weight, which really does not make sense, I am hoping that cutting out the carbs will see some positive results.
 

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High blood pressure and diabetes often go hand in hand. Do you remember what your blood pressure was? Blood pressure meds can help protect your kidneys from damage.
 

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High blood pressure and diabetes often go hand in hand. Do you remember what your blood pressure was? Blood pressure meds can help protect your kidneys from damage.
unfortunately I did not get the readings, I had my blood pressure taken on the 5th and the 12th, I am due to have this taken again on Monday so will take note of the readings.