Need advice re carb flu.

mophead

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May I ask a question, just how long does the lo carb flu last? I'm T2 been diagnosed for many years,during which I followed the Healthy Plate and meds route.Now I want to get more control and try to get off the meds,so I'm trying the low carb high fat diet,but this lo carb flu is not at all pleasant
 
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ButtterflyLady

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May I ask a question without further derailing the thread? just how long does the lo carb flu last? I'm T2 been diagnosed for many years,during which I followed the Healthy Plate and meds route.Now I want to get more control and try to get off the meds,so I'm trying the low carb high fat diet,but this lo carb flu is not at all pleasant
It lasted about 4 days for me, but it wouldn't be unusual for it to last a couple of weeks. If you start a new thread, we can give you specific suggestions about your situation, as well as some welcome info that is given to people new to the forum.
 

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May I ask a question, just how long does the lo carb flu last? I'm T2 been diagnosed for many years,during which I followed the Healthy Plate and meds route.Now I want to get more control and try to get off the meds,so I'm trying the low carb high fat diet,but this lo carb flu is not at all pleasant
Hi mophead and welcome to the forum. @daisy1 has some info she posts for newbies and she should be along shortly.

How long have you been experiencing carb flu?
 

daisy1

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@mophead

Hello mophead and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members as mentioned above, and I hope you will find it useful. I hope the carb flu goes soon. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Totto

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May I ask a question, just how long does the lo carb flu last? I'm T2 been diagnosed for many years,during which I followed the Healthy Plate and meds route.Now I want to get more control and try to get off the meds,so I'm trying the low carb high fat diet,but this lo carb flu is not at all pleasant
You can see if a bit more salt helps. Half a teaspoon of salt in a small glass of water. If you feel better within half an hour it works.
 

paruri

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@mophead are you restricting calories or fat intake? For me upping the fat helped me get past the flu stage