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About The Cause of NP, PNP, RP, Etc.

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by Ch.R., Sep 6, 2017.

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  1. Ch.R.

    Ch.R. Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    @Ch.R. I don't really understand the point of this post?
     
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  3. Ch.R.

    Ch.R. Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    Regrettably not Everybody can understand the physical or practical aspects !
    Have you heard of the about 20 additional Diseases Diabetics could get into ?

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    #3 Ch.R., Sep 6, 2017 at 2:10 PM
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    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    @Ch.R. - What is it that you feel people can't understand. We have a large number of extremely capable and knowledgeable members on this site. including my colleague @tim2000s .

    Can you please help the members understand what sort of discussion you are hoping to engage in. Unfortunately simply posting a series of articles doesn't necessarily help people engage.
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I am struggling with the abbreviations, could you clarify, please?
     
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    That smacks of intellectual arrogance.
     
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    I think NP could be nondeterministic, polynomial time. RP maybe Retinitis pigmentosa
    and PNP is definately positive negative positive as in transistor polarity.
    Etc I have no idea about.
     
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  8. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Thank you John. To be frank, I'm still non the wiser!
     
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  9. tim2000s

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    Hi there. I'm very pleased that you feel that you understand the physical and practical aspects of living with T1.5 - funnily enough, as someone who builds artificial pancreases and tunes the algorithms on them, alongside being a T1 for 29 years, my grasp isn't too bad either. But that's neither here not there.

    Your thread with a bunch of disparate links that show what complications are, a somewhat condescending link regarding blood vessels from wikipedia and the ADA Standards in Diabetes Care document don't constitute a particularly helpful set of information. It might perhaps be better to share what you do and how these relate.
     
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  10. Ch.R.

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    As seen in the Link, micro-vascular veins in the Capillary-Netting have a diameter
    of about 10 micro-millimeter, where all The Blood need to pass to get back to
    the heart for the cycle to start all over again.
    The Red-Blood-Bodies have a diameter of about 6-8 micro-millimeter, that means
    If Two Red-Blood-Bodies Stick Together By Too High Glucose In The Blood, it
    cannot pass the Capillary-Netting anymore and until the live span of the
    Red-Blood-Bodies of 3 Months ended, the Capillary remains clocked !
    ( As Everybody Knows, Sugar / Glucose Is A Sticky Matter. )
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    #10 Ch.R., Sep 6, 2017 at 3:24 PM
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    Do you think you're the only person who's aware of diabetic complications?

    How long have you had diabetes?
     
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    In my experience, while intellectual manner and intelligence usually go together, this is sometimes not the case...
     
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    @Ch.R. - whilst the technicalities of the causes of microvascular complications are interesting to some of us, for most people it is enough to know that high glucose levels cause them and reducing glucose levels makes them less likely to happen. Knowing that when glucose levels are high, the mechanism by which red blood cells stick together and block the capillary system doesn't make the decisions that are made better or worse.
     
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    I’m glad not to be the only one, as also seen by the presented
    Link of NIH.Gov the world’s leading medical reference, but it’s
    maybe surprising how there is still a majority which did not
    really understand what’s really behind all the known causes !

    I’m also glad, if with my post I could help many Diabetics.

    PS: Just with your kind of editing . . . . . .

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    #15 Ch.R., Sep 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM
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    Ch.R. Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    As a Man of God, how about being a little more tolerant ?

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    @Ch.R. perhaps you can explain a little more about your self, your diabetes and what your motivations are for joining the forum ?
     
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    Ch.R. Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    For this I refer to my Introduction, Posts and could add that
    I try to be a Good Human, but that seems not to be simple.
    For more of personal details I have presently no desire.

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    Hi,

    I noticed in your itroduction post you have a T1 son diagnosed 6 years ago? How old is he?
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/hey-everybody.125912/
     
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    It is not at all surprising that "there is still a majority" who don't "understand what’s really behind all the known causes !"; most people with diabetes are primarily concerned with their own particular condition and experience...and as with most things in life (not just health) the focus of people's lives differs as does the level of their education, the opportunity and/or desire to explore beyond that which they have in front of them. As for causes of diabetes - some don't care, some actually know, some choose not to know, some don't have the time, some recognise that there are a number of "causes" and a whole range of "types" as well as a whole plethora of theories. Bottom line, most who want to do something about it are far more interested in how to control it and how to cope than in what may or may not have caused it according to latest medical research. It is perhaps more surprising (though certainly not entirely so) that medical professionals concerned with diabetes are not all aware of the thought on causes and, more importantly, that they are not all up to speed on appropriate dietary issues among other things related to managing diabetes. I hope your post does indeed help those who may be interested in possible causes but, to be frank (and this is just my opinion), it would be more helpful to address ways in which people might better manage their diabetes as that IS something they can actually do something about. One might say that if a man is bitten by a dog, he needs to tend to the wound rather than learn about how the teeth of dogs may have evolved. I know that is over simplifying things and I do not intend to offend you...but hopefully this may inform you as to why your points have been less than enthusiastically received.

    Also..re "Man of God" aimed at @JohnEGreen - you have jumped to a conclusion based on a photo...and, if there is a god, then are we not all men of god?

    ps. I do know that I am an awkward so and so. I hope you will continue to contribute to the site with information we can directly benefit from. I fail in that regard myself often.
     
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