<i>Originally posted by sparkle73</i>
<br />'Tell me martin, why are you soooooooooo dedicated to proving us wrong, even on the other post saying that our baby site is just a baby site it doesnt prove anything. (indicating that yet again i am fake, my baby site is made up) Seems to me that you are going out of your way with this.. its ok you quoting things from sites, i could do the same damming Aspartame left right and center in the end you can quote all you like, you cant take away the facts that this stuff breaks down into very toxic chemicals in the body,or are you going to tell us all next that the stuff they embalm dead bodies with, which is a chemical that Aspartame makes in our body as it breaks down, is good for us. it has been banned in many different countries. why is that excatly if its so safe. Dont tell me, its 'cos they are all stupid,and in the pay of the sugar companies. your aurgument for Aspartame is flawed. you ignore the true fact that is not disputed, ie, the chemical breakdown substances in the body, and then try and tell us there can be no truth in what i am saying. You dont have to be sherlock holmes to see, just on that evidence alone, at the very least there is reason to be suspicious of it. Lets take on another way of looking at this. Forget you know anything about Aspartame,it doesnt exist,it isnt in any of our favourite drinks or cakes and sweets, then one day you hear of someone selling a tablet that is 200 times sweeter than sugar,but as a downside that it breaks down to all this nasty chemical stuff in your body. who would buy such stuff and deliberatly eat that. i wouldnt think anybody would. We never got a choice though before it was in everything. A sayings spring to mind here.'
reply
Hi- The forum you refer to hints that the FDA believe there is a problem with APM. Quite patently, the FDA does have a position on it- just not the one you have. I have looked into the evidence on APM also having heard of rumours in the past. Yet, still, there is nothing to suggest in the scientific literature that there are any health risks attached to normal intake of APM. I am not trying to prove you wrong, you have not provided any evidence at all to prove yourself correct. You defend you view with vigour, but retaliating with the emotional sledge hammer does not support your message.
Having dissected two cadaver legs this week at my local anatomy dept I know what formaldehyde does to tissues. However, the toxic metabolites you refer to are produced, but only significant levels are reached when huge quantities are ingested (eg 20mg/kg to 200mg/kg). I never use APM to sweeten anything. But if you use 5g sugar for a mug of tea. The equivilent dose of APM for sweetness would be 0.025g APM. Giving me a loading dose of 0.00025mg/kg body weight with each intake. Quite a bit less than the rat experimental doses. This leads to miniscule doses of metabolised methanol/formaldehyde. Canderel tablets are 0.045g each of APM.
I would say not to use any sweeteners all. It just induces bad habits. I try to use honey in cooking (prunes in my *****aleekie soup) as the fructose has GI of 50. I don't take any sugar/APM added to drinks or food. I can't give up diet Irn Bru just yet. I was cutting back on that to reduce my caffiene intake anyway. To suggest I stuff my mouth with APM is ridiculous. Please provide robust evidence- you haven't yet on this forum on on the other one you linked.
Marty B
(with no COI at all, no axe to grind, no agenda)
