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Autoimmune Cross Reactions To Everyday Foods: Possibly A Root Cause Of Autoimmune Diabetes

Discussion in 'Other Health Conditions and Diabetes' started by Lar oli mu, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    I grew up with German parents, ate lots of home cooked food and had no siblings. I did not meet God until I was 20 and I did not meet Datis Kharrazian until I was 44. Here https://www.phoenixhelix.com/2015/06/19/episode-21-autoimmune-qa-with-dr-datis-kharrazian/ is a great interview with him. I did not know that God still heals desease in the name of His son Jesus Christ until I met my diabetes doctor, Dr. Arne Elsen, who himself got healed through prayer in the name of Jesus Christ from several conditions, one being Basedow thyroid autoimmune as a young doctor. Go here to hear his story

    Now I keep having these interesting conversations with God about how this healing proceeds and how I can fully cooperate with kicking #beatdiabetes in the butt. So I thought, I have changed my entire life to comply with the protocol of the auto immune specialists from Harvard. And I thought this might add up to 80% my effort and maybe 20% God’s effort. I mean, a little spurt of supernatural increase in pancreas function, that might add up to 20%. So one night I asked God how much percent of the entire healing process has been my job? Do you know what he said? 14%.

    I thought to myself, that’s not a whole lot. I said “14% that’s like VAT before they changed it to 19% (in Germany)’. But then I thought, “ 14, that is 2×7, and in God’s symbolism of numbers seven stands for fullness or completion. And then He said to me, “If you would not have given your full 14%, you would not have kept the healing.” I could understand that. I also understand, that diabetes is really complicated, and God could’ve said, my part was 0.1% or even less than that.

    But I can live with 2×7 and putting all the effort I am capable off into my part of the miracle. And believing for God to put in His part.
     
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  2. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    Hey Tim!
    BUckwheat just has the strongest reaction in a Petri dish with purified antibodies. But to keep an autoimmune reaction running you only need a microscopical amount every one or two years, and you have the beetle circle effect: And he runs, he runs, he runs (the diabetes autoimmune style.) Nothing wrong with buckwheat, but the farmer in my town, he started planting hectares of buckwheat last year, and he is a type 1. man, if he eats all that stuff :( but he won’t listen to me.
     
  3. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    Knowing this has changed my understanding of diabetes more than anything. A small enzyme is being attacked with severe consequences. Not dealing with this autoimmune facts will pose problems in the thyroid, the memory center of the brain and in the glucagon management of the pancreas.

    [​IMG]https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6458300449354190848
     
  4. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    CHEMICAL OR ORAL TOLERANCE RESTORED?
    After sticking to this autoimmune diet + miracles strategy I had been reacting harshly to any cross contaminations with gluten or milk or corn. So being in Poland this summer I was finally encouraged through an incidence to make a truly barbarian test: The first night I tried chocolate ice cream with a cone. Stunning enough there were no immediate complications like the stomach pains, dizziness and all the other stuff I had been experiencing for years with just microscopical amounts. But I slept for 12 hours straight after that ice cream cone, knocked out style of sleeping! Encouraged by the missing pains I decided to go for gluten and yeast the next day and I emptied out an entire Polish bakery and just crammed it all in. Again no immediate catastrophe! And no sleep disturbances either. Almost normal. Very encouraging On he third day I went for the jugular: an entire McDonalds menu. I slept for exactly 15 (!!) hours straight after that one.

    So you could say, there is some oral tolerance reestablished The immune system is making more acceptable decisions, the antibodies seem to have gone down in number, but I'm not there yet to fully re-integrate these foods into my diet. Which I don't want anyway, because changing the way I eat has sunken in deep enough already.
     
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  5. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    I may add restore oral tolerance to this list. And This has been a huge riddle: we have all HEARD of people who started gluten again, but have you ever met one??

    Yesterday I took another oral tolerance test: Full meal with all the ingredients on my ‚blacklist‘. But I did it with some magnificent help:there were three experienced prayer warriors who are experienced in praying for sick people with me and they had FAITH that I can eat ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. So I went for the test and other than some funny feelings in my head after the first sips of diet coke (it is sort of ‚poisoned water‘) IHAD NO REACTIONS AT ALL.—NOT EVEN GAS!!
    So that‘s a huge sign for THE RESTORATION OF ORAL TOLERANCE THROUGH DIET &PRAYER.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ?
     
  6. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    I don't want to make comment on the prayer warriors or the like, but I will comment that as someone who lives a gluten-free lifestyle, one of my signs/symptoms of ingesting gluten is extreme fatigue and deep, deep sleep. My consideration is the deep, deep sleep is my body closing down the non-essential stuff (like being awake, having conversation etc.) in order to concentrate on coping with the gluten.

    For me, I accept that gluten is no longer part of my life and don't goad the sleeping dog, which might just bite back in extremis, at some point.

    Of course, as an adult, with mental capacity, you are free to experiment in whichever way you choose.
     
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  7. Brunneria

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    It is a well known phenomenon that after avoiding exposure, tolerance to foods can re-build.

    I can get away with gluten and other foods to which I am intolerant - if I eat them very rarely.

    however returning to regular exposure will also return to the full blown reactions and very unpleasant symptoms.

    I see nothing unusual in the situation described.
     
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  8. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    @Brunneria : You are right; for you there is nothing unusual about the situation I have described. For me the focus has been to avoid auto immune triggers that put gasoline on the fire of auto immune reaction against pancreas target sites. So what you will find after a two year 100% elimination diet is that the autoimmune war will come to an end—nutrition Is sort of like the ‚peace treaty‘ that ends the war. But ‚oral tolerance‘ is like the occupation powers that take over the war torn country. The ‚Marshal Plan‘ whatsoever is prayer in the name of Jesus Christ.

    What will happen, if you have a Marshall Plan going on in your immune system, is that you will see unexpected jumps in oral tolerance. My students at school were like ‚Look at this: Mr. Muffy is eating gluten !!!‘ They knew exactly how strict my diet had been, and I had not shared meals with them for the last two years (and all the time tried to explain to them why I did that, expanding their understanding of what is going on in a war torn body. I have had UNPLEASANT results (AND THEY DO SUCK THAT MUCH—YOU AVOID THEM AT ANY COST) but then you do another experiment and the results are not as bad as they used to be.

    So I go for the Marshall Plans, the unexpected jumps in oral tolerance through prayer. Or as @DCUKMod put it: The sleeping dog, that will one day wake up and just be nice, first for 1 billion gluten* molecules and the next time for 2 billion gluten molecules, first for 24 hours of gluten* and the next time for 48 hours of exposure. And if you think about it: Jesus Christ was the first doctor there ever was, He was the first on who understood healing the mechanisms of sickness. (* or any other hidden trigger)

    Oral tolerance is such a complicated thing, and restoring it hasn’t been fully understood. So let’s push for this boundary to be moved backward, through removing triggers and reestablishing barriers and normalizing the job of the T helper cells; and: MORE MARSHALL PLANS FOR EVERYBODY ❣️❣️❣️

    We shall see here what exactly will go on to reESTABLISH tolerance for good. https://kharrazianinstitute.com/syl...inical-strategies-and-treatment-applications/

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  9. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    I want to thank you for the respect you are showing here. Last week a young doctor told me ‚He who heals is right.‘ I hadn’t heard that one in a while. The ‚prayer warriors‘ just means that they pray for sick people regularly + see results also regularly. This builds faith, the substance that in Jesus Christ’s name ‚moves mountains.‘

    Diabetes is a mountain, when it is full blown.

    Thank you for your description of symptoms which I 100% can relate to. My last ‚autoimmune provocations‘had the following results: potato (March at home): had to throw up and spit it out; dairy+gluten (July in Poland): 12 hours deep sleep; ton of gluten+yeast (I ate myself through an entire Polish bakery): nothing; McDonalds Maxi Menü (also July): 15 hours of knockout sleep!

    But this last ‚provocation was special: it had all of the previous in one meal, the following two days the same: no results. That shows me that some things are moving, which is what I want. And my Father in Heaven also.
     
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    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    LOSS OF ORAL TOLERANCE/ THE SLEEPING DOG
    Here is one aspect of the sleeping dog: oral tolerance gets lost when chemicals contaminate food and the immune system is confused about the identity of the substance.

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  11. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    New Basal Units, 25% reduction in the last three days
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    The pancreas loves this new freedom, I weigh 105 kg at 2,04 meters, the past three days bloodsugars were lower than usual, so I reduced 10%, still low, then 15% more. Bloodsugar still stable: more pancreas function (this rocks❣️❣️❣️)

    How much pancreas beta cell function do you think has been restored? Give it a shot??

    And guess what: healing Seminar with Dr. Arne coming up today// these guys are praying already days in advance❣️❣️❣️
     
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    Is your insulin agenesis massively impinging on your quality of life? Is your food restriction massively impinging on your quality of life? Weigh the options.
     
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    Interesting that none of the meat proteins figure in the results, although they are listed in Table 1. There are some hits with dairy products, and surprisingly mackeral but it was the fruit and veg and grains that showed the worst interactions. Legumes also figured in the bad boys list too.

    For a Uni that has been closely associated with the WFPB movement, then this is indeed surprising research. I wonder who paid for it to be done? I wonder if this study was prompted by Atkins?
     
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  14. Indy51

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    You could always email the main author - his email is listed.
    Dr Vojdani is listed as CEO of Autoimmune Sciences Lab, so wouldn't surprise me if the lab covered the actual costs of running the tests they used for the research. Their cross-reactivity tests are available in both the US and UK - think the name of the company is Cyrex Labs. This is only one of many studies they've done over the past few years. I'd be surprised by any link to Atkins though.
     
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    Found this video presentation by Dr Vojdani's on Youtube. I've heard interviews with him before. ISTR his whole career traces back to his mother's autoimmune disease that dominated his childhood.

     
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  16. Lars Muff

    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    That’s exactly the same motive which has caused Datis Kharrazian to delve into the subject, his mother’s struggle with an autoimmune disease.
     
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    Mackerel - oh no :( I love mackerel.
     
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  18. Lars Muff

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    OLD PRAYERS—DON‘T GIVE UP HOPE
    I remember in 1993 Reinhard Bonnke was the main speaker of an event in the Hannover CongressCenter. There were a few thousand people there and I remember him telling about the criticism he received for the “From Minus to Plus” campaign he had held prior in Britain and the in , but still it was the largest fishnet ever cast over a nation, the mail men bringing the gospel to every household. There was a choir led by Pit Mumsen, and Arne Kopfermann was there with his band. I had been helping set up the stage, so during the worship before Reinhard Bonnke preached I was behind the stage. I remember never having felt the presence of God that strong. It felt like a heavy weight was on my entire body paired with a immense felling of glory, joy and true thankfulness. I remember clearly having had the thought, while I was kneeling under the weight of the heavy presence of God: If God heals me now, then I will be forever paying back my thanks to Him. Of course I had the expectation to be healed there on the spot, but I felt the presence and there was no immediate healing of my metabolism. Reinhard had mentioned in his sermon though that once after finishing a sermon in Africa a man had sought him out in his hotel afterwards because he wanted extra prayer. I think he shared that story for me to build up courage to do exactly the same that night. After we were done cleaning up I asked ARNE Kopfermann if he knew where Reinhard was staying. He suggested in the close by Stadtpark Hotel. So I went there and spoke up at the reception. Even though it was past 11 pm, Reinhard came down and took the time to answer my most probing questions. He explained ‘anointing’ to me and cleared up the misunderstanding I had there and then he prayed for me. I also told him of my vision to be a preacher at basketball games and he prayed for that. We parted, me a baby Christian and him getting ready to take over Africa with the Lord. 25 years later I can see the fruit of that prayer.


    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lars...st-memorial-activity-6619554744857829376--4zE
     
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    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    I am doing something right*!
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    #TrittDiabetesInDenHintern #KickDiabetesInTheRear #TheHeartOfTheFatherForHealing #DasHerzDesVatersFürHeilung

    *On the image you can see how my insulin pump stopped (orange shading) on the way to the healing worship service. Then it shut off again with the beginning of the service until the end, which was for 4 (!!) hours. Since the pump will only allow for a 2 hour shutoff, it comes back for a few minutes and then goes back in to shutoff. It remained without work for 8 hours (!!). Then something funny happened. The pump sounded an alarm (because it does not understand healing) „Please call medical personell! I am a diabetic!“ I thought the day will come when I will say: There was a time when I was a diabetic.

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    Lars Muff Type 1 · Active Member

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    well, it keeps coming back. This was only March 3rd, but now we have March 31st. Yesterday for example it was for six hours and tonight for another four hours. That’s why I am so grateful for the “KeepsComingBack”-Award; This keeps coming back!

    Wow.

    The autoimmune fire has been quenched (There is research on that...), islet cells can regrow (there is research on that...). And what do they do when they regrow? Produce what they are meant to produce. And if they are not engulfed by some wild phagocyte then they will just be more and more and more.

    And the truth of the matter is: God will help me out on those parts that are impossible. For example that the ventromedial nucleus after 35 years shutdown will measure my blood glucose levels again ad communicate with those new beta cells.

    Langerhans would jump from his grave and shout “That’s IMPOSSIBLE!—it MUST be GOD!!”
     
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