Hi there Freema - Could you post your source of that belief? I hadn't heard that before and I'm sure others would be interested too.
no wishing to derail @daisyduck 's thread but here is one instance of the claim https://www.theguardian.com/science...d-prevent-spread-of-breast-cancer-study-shows and for balance a rebuttal https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/02/08/no-asparagus-wont-give-you-cancer-12546
Thanks Bulkbiker. Derailing the thread certainly wasn't and isn't my intent, but I felt clarification was worthwhile, for everyone.
@daisyduck I’ve only just spotted your thread and my heart goes out to you. I spent most of last year battling with cancer and understand what a bodyblow the diagnosis is. I’ll be thinking of you tomorrow. Big hugs.
Arh how are you coping with this discovery? Still bit of a shock thou, right? Fit and well is good, very good. @donnellysdogs may have some advice, not sure if she's around at mo but she is a huge inspiration.
Hi Hi DD, You are certainly adopting the right attitude. Many nutritionist avoid giving advice on this subject (other than preventative measures) but there are some things which I can state based upon many years in science. Firstly, I must say before starting any radical changes in your diet consult you oncology team and your GP. There are many reported cases of diet combating cancers even at stage IV accompanied by clinical evidence but as always, not all can be trusted and the could be other implications. I read this forum as I have an active interest in D2 and have had for many years. In regard to KETO: My wife and myself have been 22 years on KETO, if managed correctly, it's great diet. I avoid non plant based carbs like the plague. There are essential fats, essential proteins but NO essential carbs that the body needs from our choice of foods. We need glucose mail for our brain and thyroid but guess what? you body makes it! Our plate is always 80% Veg. Carbs such as cakes, pastries, flour, pasta, some rices, breads, etc (btw for D2 suffers, look at the affects of amylopectin A from wheat on blood sugar) are not necessary. We complement KETO with the 16/8 diet as humans invented 3/4 meals per day, not nature. (not suitable for certain types). Remember, eat it only if it is a 'Plant' NOT if it made in a "PLANT" Anyway, time and time again these foods etc are repeated regularly. My advice is start a food diary: eat large amount of cruciferous veg (alway cut at least 20 mins before cooking) Look up sulfroraphene) and add anything for the list below. Do not eat red meat at this time and eliminate external sugars totally from your diet (bacteria and cancer love sugar, helps them spread). Eat blueberries to replace the sweet feeling daily (a great antioxidant too) daily. Adopt KETO (tell your GP) and use this daily daily to help. By the way I copied this list below from an article which we thought was good...... Epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG) – Green Tea 6-Gingerol – Ginger β-Carotene – Carrot, Leafy Greens Baicalein – Chinese Skullcap Curcumin – Turmeric Cyclopamine – Corn Lilly [we do not suggest consuming this plant; this simply illustrates natural components exist that kill cancer stem cells] Delphinidin – Blueberry, raspberrry Flavonoids (Genistein) – Soy, red clover, coffee (enema) Gossypol – Cottonseed [we do not suggest consuming this plant; this simply illustrates natural components exist that kill cancer stem cells] Guggulsterone – Commiphora (myrrh tree) Isothiocyanates – Cruciferous vegetables Linalool – Mint Lycopene – Grapefruit, tomato Parthenolide – Feverfew Perylill alcohol – Mint, cherry, lavender Piperine – Black pepper Placycodon saponin – Playycodon grandifloruim Psoralidin – Psoralea corylilyfolia Quercetin – Capers, onion Resveratrol – Grapes, plums, berries Salinomycin – Streptomyces albus Silibinin – Milk Thistle Ursolic acid – Thyme, basil, oregano Vitamin D3 – Fish, egg yolk,, cod liver oil (Editor’s note: vegan supplement options are also available) Withafer Good luck steve
Yes full on Keto for the last few weeks. I'm feeling really well, actually the best I've felt since chemo and radiotherapy last year. Most of the radiotherapy damage pain has gone since I've been on Keto.
@daisyduck just read your thread - sorry to hear your news. Hope all goes well today and if it can be beaten by a positive attitude you’ve already ‘kicked it into touch’
Asparagin is in many, many, many natural foods. The advice from docs in uk is not to stop but keep moderation.
I'm really glad you're feeling so well on it. Like everything else, not everyone can cope with it, with everything else that's going on, but great you can. A few tears ago we had a lady diagnosed whilst doing the Newcastle Diet and stuck with it through her treatment. If I recall, her concession to her bodily assault from the surgery, and follow up treatments was ro add a bit of chicken breast, to enhance healing. She popped back not so long ago is continues to do really well, having reversed her condition and stayed very trim. Best of vibes to you from me. I'm sure we're all rooting for you.
Back from my appointments today. Saw the surgeon this morning and the oncologist this afternoon. I've been advised that the massive surgery is the only chance of a cure and that chemo would be merely palliative. Both doctors were very negative about diet and said that there is no proven evidence that it helps!
Conversely there's no definite proof that it doesn't. Hoping that the surgery goes well when you get it and that all will be well for you..