Balancing a Low Carb Diet with a Low Oxylate Diet - Looking After the Kidneys

DonRodg

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
The question is in the title. Is it possible to keep the kidneys healthy on a low carb / high protein diet?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rosie9876

Antje77

Guru
Retired Moderator
Messages
20,713
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
The question is in the title. Is it possible to keep the kidneys healthy on a low carb / high protein diet?
Depends.
If your kidneys are perfectly healthy there is nothing wrong with a higher protein diet.
If you have some type of kidney disease this could be different.

A low oxalate diet is sometimes advised when dealing with kidney stones (depending on the type of stones) and as far as I know high protein is not an issue in this diet.
 

EllieM

Moderator
Staff Member
Moderator
Messages
9,979
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Pump
Dislikes
hypos and forum bugs
Yes, my husband is low oxalate because he's had kidney stones, and we eat plenty of low carb meals.
 

DonRodg

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Depends.
If your kidneys are perfectly healthy there is nothing wrong with a higher protein diet.
If you have some type of kidney disease this could be different.

A low oxalate diet is sometimes advised when dealing with kidney stones (depending on the type of stones) and as far as I know high protein is not an issue in this diet.
The problem seems to be that damage to the kidneys occurs once T2 diabetes occurs. So potentially as a T2 the kidneys may already be damaged?
 

lovinglife

Moderator
Staff Member
Moderator
Messages
5,535
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
The problem seems to be that damage to the kidneys occurs once T2 diabetes occurs. So potentially as a T2 the kidneys may already be damaged?
Have you been told that your tests show any kidney damage? If not then I wouldn’t worry

I’ve had slightly leaky kidneys since diagnosis 14 years ago, but they’ve always been stable and I do a keto diet. I asked a couple of times over the years do I need to reduce protein in my diet and have been told no need to change anything. I am on a low blood pressure tablet even though my blood pressure has never been out of range, apparently the best way to help your kidneys is to keep your blood pressure down
 
  • Informative
  • Like
Reactions: Antje77 and DonRodg

JoKalsbeek

Expert
Messages
6,500
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
The question is in the title. Is it possible to keep the kidneys healthy on a low carb / high protein diet?
Low oxalate and low carb do fine together. You might want to look into the carnivore diet, even: no oxalates at all in that, nor carbs. That actually gave me kidney stones (ureum stones, not calcium-oxilate ones, are my problem), so it could well work miracles for both your blood sugars and your kidneys. Just remember to, whatever type of stone you have, drink enough. Flush out as much as you can, unless you suspect a blockage.

Good luck!
Jo
PS: I take it you're not just assuming "probably oxalate stones" because they're more prevalent. Yours did get tested for type?
 
  • Like
Reactions: DonRodg

DonRodg

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Low oxalate and low carb do fine together. You might want to look into the carnivore diet, even: no oxalates at all in that, nor carbs. That actually gave me kidney stones (ureum stones, not calcium-oxilate ones, are my problem), so it could well work miracles for both your blood sugars and your kidneys. Just remember to, whatever type of stone you have, drink enough. Flush out as much as you can, unless you suspect a blockage.

Good luck!
Jo
PS: I take it you're not just assuming "probably oxalate stones" because they're more prevalent. Yours did get tested for type?
I have just had two calcium oxylate stones removed. I want to try and avoid them in future
 

Rachox

Oracle
Retired Moderator
Messages
17,130
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
As @MrsA2 says I eat low carb and low oxalate. I had a kidney stone a few years ago and when it was analysed it was 95% oxalate. It is perfectly possible to control my diabetes and lower my risk of another kidney stone by eating this way. For oxalate content of food I use an app called OxiPur
 

DonRodg

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I watched a Jason Fung video on this. I discovered that he is a nephrologist.

Any thoughts on coffee and any impact on the kidneys?
 

DonRodg

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Have you been told that your tests show any kidney damage? If not then I wouldn’t worry
I have not been told that. No. I notice that one or two of my kidney related markers are a bit borderline. I am waiting on a face to face post op meeting in Urology just now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lovinglife