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Bodybuilding with Type-1

Discussion in 'Fitness, Exercise and Sport' started by Pearsall85, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. SamJB

    SamJB Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I do weights in the morning before I've eaten anything and because of the dawn phenomenon I actually need insulin and never go hypo.
     
  2. Fcooper

    Fcooper · Member

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    What is the "dawn phenomenon"?


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  3. SamJB

    SamJB Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Raised blood sugars in the morning caused by hormones. Some people get it before they wake up, I get it as soon as I wake up. Some people dont get it at all. Mine means I dont need sugar when I do exercise in the morning.

    Have a google, there's probably a better explanation out there than mine!
     
  4. Mike.C.

    Mike.C. Type 1 · Newbie

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    Hi guys my personal trainer suggested I look into the t-nation website which covers an awful lot of diabetes and weight training, from carb loading pre and post training, carb replacement foods, what the insulin does within the body regards what ur body will store as fat and muscle, how insulin will help burn and aid fat loss and increase muscle growth, when used properly in regards to blood sugars!!!

    Hope this helps, good to see I'm not the only one struggling to get the head around good control and training.


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  5. Diabetick

    Diabetick · Member

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    You need to take a medium sized snack before gym also you need to calculate the carbs and reduce the insulin amount by 20% and the. That should do it


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  6. Bodybuilder type1

    Bodybuilder type1 · Well-Known Member

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    Before gym I eat 50grams of carbs (dry pasta) veg and chicken 50grams is perfect for a 2hr session and no need to inject before gym this keeps me going at a constant ,I also have dawn phenomena ,if ur sugars start to dip during exercise then you may need to do extra excersise ,maybe a 30second sprint or flat out lifting weights for 30sec to increase glucose release


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  7. Bodybuilder type1

    Bodybuilder type1 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm diabetic type 1 .25 years old 6,0 foot 13.1stone bf 6.0%
    You can reach your goals by taking into consideration your genetics diet exercise program and metabolism
    And tweak these to suit you
    I only do one muscle group a week and generally 2 body parts a day 4days a week always to failure for eg tricep/chest .shoulder/leg bicep and back 2hrs a session no more than 30second rest
    To mix it up try a 3week program
    For eg first week bring the muscle to failure on the 6 to 10th rep .week 2 bring muscle to failure on the 11th to the 12th rep
    Week 3 bring the muscle to failure on the 14th to (for some exercises bring it to 50 reps) 20 rep and then repeat week one and so forth .your body will find it extremely hard to cope with such change and will have to adapt and after that depending on your nutrition you can loose weight or gain weight I try gain muscle and keep fat down I am 6,0 %bf and I eat 2 breakfasts 3dinners every day and on training days take a shake that has more than 1360 calories


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  8. Charlye

    Charlye · Member

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    Hey!! Im type 1 and a Personal Trainer - Exercise with diabetes is generally just a trial and error thing at first. You need to find out what your body will let you do with regards to your blood sugars. As far as bodybuilding is concerned, lifting heavy weights uses bags of glucose so hypo's are very likely and you'll need to figure out what works best for you in order to prevent this, and also make sure you get a lots of protein. The exact amount varies from person to person depending on your size, but the general rule of thumb is one piece of lean protein (chicken/fish/quorn/tofu) the size of the palm of your hand with every meal and another protein snack after your workouts. This helps your muscles repair and also provides the muscles with the amino acids they need to be able to hypertrophy - or go bigger. I would double check everything with a dietitian if you can. But just make sure you monitor your bloods very closely until you are certain what your body will let you do before hypo's start ruining your workout routine.
     
  9. Fcooper

    Fcooper · Member

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    How do you keep your bf % at 6%? I have tried looking on the Internet for how type 1 diabetics can lose body fat but cannot find a straight answer. Also, how do you find out your bf % as I'd be interested in having mine measured.

    Thanks in advance.


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  10. Bodybuilder type1

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    Body mass index (BMI) is a measure of body fat based on height and weight .they test me in my gym with a device
    I eat lean and clean all year round been going to the gym for 6years now and have never missed more than 3days a week I also am a personal trainer as my side job .also I never inject into my stomach anymore as I don't want the insulin there ,I always inject into the muscle I have been training as to absorb it quicker .you will be able to be at 6%if you train hard and know how much of every food you eat all the time not just carbs. Black pepper and coffee help burn fat as well but keep your diet lean and clean all the time and you will get rely lean


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  11. Chaz1311

    Chaz1311 · Newbie

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    Hi guys I hope you don't mind me butting in. This is my first post but one which I feel very strongly about. Short intro: I've been a t1 diabetic for nearly 21 years and started training with weights at 13 years old (my dad was a competitive weightlifter and I happend to inherit those strong genes!). I train 5-6 times a week, hate continuous cardio but love HIIT!

    I had the opportunity to take part in a research trial taking place at Swansea university a few weeks ago on diabetes and strength/weight training. The PhD student researching this topic was Daniel Turner, under the supervision of Dr Richard Bracken and Prof Stephen Bain (my old consultant). Dr Bracken and Prof Bain specialise in diabetes and exercise so have a look at some of their work (journal articles ect). Dan's in the process of collating all the data at the moment, but I'll happily share his conclusions once they're available. Here are some of my (not so scientific but useful) points/tips on this topic:-

    Check your bg frequently (as has been mentioned) - I test an hour before, straight before and straight after without fail
    Manage your basal dose - your bg will probably be high straight after intense weight training (sessions that are less than 1 hour) but don't be fooled because it fires up your metabolism, uses insulin much more effectively and burns energy for hours later so you'll need less basal.
    Try to keep pre-session bg under 12 - I've found that if it's higher than this, combined with the effect of the session, you'll start to feel a bit rubbish. However, I did get a PB on the leg press (350kg!) with a bg of 19. There's always an exception.
    Don't over-compensate too much: if you inject enough bolus to aim for a bg of 4-5, you're pretty much destined for a hypo! I suffer with really bad delayed onset hypos in the night/first thing in the morning so when I finish my session around 6:30-7ish, my bolus is usually small and aiming for a bg of around 10.
    Morning sessions are different (in the past, I've kept to a moderate-intensity power walk, which doesn't cause bg to raise as much, but have recently ventured into some kettlebell circuits pre-breakfast, which usually needs 1 or 2 extra units)
    Keep a record and even create a graph on excel to determine the trends.
    Understand your own insulin sensitivity.
    Sports massage is a great way of stimulating muscle growth but beware, it should be treated in the same way as a gym session. I stupidly trained back/triceps then had a sports massage which resulted in a hypo nearly immediately and the next morning!

    Apologies of the long post...this is a topic that's had little research done so it's great to share as much personal experience as possible. Also, you might find Melanie Stephenson's blog useful: she's a t1 diabetic and a Welsh international sprinter so the type of training she does is along the same lines as me but on a much greater level. She's a Diabetes UK Cymru ambassador too.

    Training, I can do...loosing body fat is a whole other story! You win some, you lose some.

    Best wishes everyone :)

    Charlotte x


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  12. GlazedDoughnuts

    GlazedDoughnuts · Well-Known Member

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    IM insulin shots...interesting I take it you do this as it's claimed to work faster?

    Have you ever used Celltech?

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  13. shutterspeed

    shutterspeed · Member

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    Can you give more info as ehy not inject into stomach, am training hard and wondered if I should inject direct into thigh instead of my belly. Thanks

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  14. Kash2001

    Kash2001 · Active Member

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    Hi guys a couple of things, I've been trading in mma for over 30 years and type 1 for 28 years, I rarely inject into stomach as I find the insulin hits too hard, in legs it seems to absorb slower, also taking a hit in the guts is to sensitive if I were to inject there. Legs seem to cope ok with the impacts.

    I have a question re putting on weight and increase muscle, I have never taken steroids and rarely used powders I have always preferred eating fish, meats etc. however I have never been very big 5'10" 12st and I wish to increase muscle mass and a bit of weight, I do lots of squats & push the weights I can manage individually and do grappling as part of my strength regime.

    I have found a product online link below just wondering if anyone has tired it and if it's safe for us to take...

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B0VNXN4?vs=1

    reviews seem favourable as I'm getting older now and training is getting harder with recovery etc. and of course testosterone diminishes as we get older...

    Any help with this would be great, I am taking alpha male vitamin supplement and it rocks, no lurgies when males of my age have been sick, when its usually me! lots more energy ohhh and cut gluten from your diet and apart from not drinking alcohol for 10 years+ are the major factors in my level of activity today.

    Atb
     
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