can someone advise me!!

smokey

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Went back to my stupid GP today, he finally agree to put me back on my medication ( for fluid on the brain) now his told me I am a diabetic, I ask him to explain this all to me and his said I would have to wait until the nurse rang me next week to make appountment, does this happen to other people with GP's?
How do I find out what I'm suppose to be doing? I have no idea! I would be greatful if someone could give some advice I'm very confused.

Smokey
 

daisy1

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
Hi Smokey :) I am sorry about your diagnosis. Before someone helps you by explaining to you how to look after yourself, here is some basic information for new members written by our friends Sue and Ken, former monitors. This should get you started. I expect you will have lots of questions so ask away as there is always someone here to help.

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 

anna29

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Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
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Cruelty to Animals/Children
Liars/Manipulators/Bullying
Hiya smokey, yes unfortunately the GP's give out the results and the nurses take you through your first steps what meds n treatment you start with, answer all your questions etc. It would be an idea to write all your questions down you feel/need to ask. GP's do tend to just diagnose then pass you onto the diabetic nursing team to do your diabetes aftercare. It is normal to feel confused ,lost, shocked upon diagnosis of diabetes. Please dont panic we are here to help you along, just ask any questions you wish,need to and someone will come along to support and help you along. This will help/support you inbetween your next appointment with your nurse. Hope this helps? Anna.x :)
 

Margi

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(The previous two post went up while I was writing this one, but here goes anyway.)

I can't, of course, give medical advice, but I have to assume that your GP has diagnosed type 2 diabetes, which used to be called 'maturity onset' diabetes, i.e. it generally is diagnosed in adulthood and involves a degree of insulin resistance as well as the body not producing enough insulin. If it was type one, which is a complete breakdown of insulin production so you have none at all, your GP would have you in treatment immediately and you would be learning all about injecting insulin and stuff straight away. There is no way he would say, 'wait and speak to someone next week'. At least, I very much hope he wouldn't.

So for now, I suggest you simply reduce your carbohydrate eating. That is starchy foods like bread, potatoes, pasta etc. Particularly cut out ALL straight sugar in your diet, and that includes the teaspoon in your tea! Do that until you can get to speak to the nurse who will sort you out properly. You can't do yourself any harm that by reducing your carbs and it might help you to feel a bit better in the meantime.

Basically, diabetes means you do not produce enough insulin. Insulin is a hormone that allows our bodies to convert the glucose in our blood, (which is what all the carbohydrates we eat end up as after a bit of digestion) into energy and whatever else we need it for. (No biologist, me!) Without enough insulin your blood gets filled up with glucose and you can't turn it into fuel to function properly. Result: you feel b***y awful and if left untreated it will cause all sorts of nasties to happen. If treated you will be fine, so don't panic! :D

Type 2, as described above, often only needs you to cut out some carbs from your diet to control it and then you get back to normal, but you have to keep those carbs cut out for ever. It won't go away. As the degrees of severity go up, sometimes tablets are needed to help the body use the insulin properly and to stimulate enough insulin production. If those don't work, then you can inject insulin, but that is a whole different ball game. In fact though, if that happens, most type twos say that going on insulin makes their lives and health so much easier and better, so it's not such a scary thing really.

Best of luck. Welcome to the 'club'. Keep in touch and let us know how you get on. There are always plenty of people here to advise and offer support. We've a good few shoulders to cry on between us. :)
 

smokey

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:p I would just like to say thank you, to you all for the advice.
I know where to come if I need some more, I think you might be fed up with me soon.
Once again thank you there is some very useful advise here

Smokey: :D
 

Sid Bonkers

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
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Customer helplines that use recorded menus that promise to put me through to the right person but never do - and being ill. Oh, and did I mention customer helplines :)
Hi Smokey and welcome to the forum, dont worry about asking lots of questions thats what the forum is for :D Good advice offered so far in this thread so I wont add to it for fear of confusion.

Good luck when you see nursey, some are better than others so good luck with that, hope you have a good one who is sympathetic and well informed :D