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COVID 2019 Comorbidity with Diabetes

Discussion in 'Other Health Conditions and Diabetes' started by Bill_St, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Master

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    I think it’s very dangerous to start attaching blame to anyone contracting this, or any other form of virus. Yes, everyone has a responsibility to take the necessary precautions - particularly if they have any symptoms - but as some unfortunate incidents have already shown, judging and blaming leads nowhere helpful.
     
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  2. Bill_St

    Bill_St Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    In my OP, I linked to a study of seriously ill subjects in China.
    I pointed out that it was limited due to only being over the first 28 days of illness with many still in ICU.

    We now have a further study just published.
    It shows much longer duration of infection and higher rates of Hypertension and D comorbidity.
    WARNING
    I must emphasise these figures relate to those who were Seriously ill.
    Do not take them as indicators for general populations.

    https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/S0140-6736(20)30566-3
     
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  3. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    #503 Indy51, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:06 AM
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  4. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    You hv had viruses before, I assure you. Any runny nose before with tiredness on good bgs? Then you've had a virus and lived.
     
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  5. WackyJacky64

    WackyJacky64 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you so much .
     
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  6. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It may seem a bit trivial when people have died but I wonder how people cope on holiday? As an example I normally tour somewhere Mediterranean for a couple of weeks stopping 3 days at a time at various hotels or apartments. Having to go into hospital is one thing but self-isolating is not going to work, especially if your booking has ended!
     
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  7. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Well said, be aware, sensible and safe, that's what I try to do everyday.
     
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  8. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    I sit in a taxi 5 days a week, twice a day, with the school escort driver and 3 children, the drivers wife works in an Italian company, in our town, where 3 people have tested positive for the virus, so very close to home. Next one, 10 miles way, last week 17 miles away.
     
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  9. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    It may seem like a huge death sentence at the moment and yes many will test positive and they do get better, a few, unfortunately won't. I would rather know what is going on and then try to make the best of the situation to stay on top of things.
    Best not to panic, as stress levels can put BG's up, they do in me and they can rocket.
    Deep breaths, in through the nose and out through the mouth and count to 10, it may help.
    Edited.
     
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    #509 Robinredbreast, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:13 PM
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  10. jjraak

    jjraak Type 2 · Expert

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    at a sensible level, we'd fly home and in the meantime stay in hospitals, hotel rooms etc
    but i doubt that would be sensible or practical.

    I believe most will be more like the prep for any major disater, think katrina.

    so schools sports halls, etc,, tented maybe, perhaps cubicles..won't be pretty.
    check out the way china managed a lot of the outbreak, that's the model when it all goes pete tong
     
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  11. jjraak

    jjraak Type 2 · Expert

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    as this progresses that is going to be a similar reality all over for many.
    whether on the tube, bus, taxi in the office..we'll struggle to avoid contact situations until we are told.

    Stay safe.
     
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  12. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Exactly, no point panicking about it.
     
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  13. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Sorry, but I cannot for the life of me think why you would post the above, a possible murderer because they aren't as clean as someone else, or just sneezed outright, no tissue to Catch it, Bin it, Kill it, too lazy to wash their hands, these people go about doing this day after day after day, year in year out, unfortunately nothing is perfect.
     
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  14. jjraak

    jjraak Type 2 · Expert

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  15. lindisfel

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    We just have to improve the odds on our chances of not getting it.

    For example, do one big shop per week, preferably on a quiet day.
    Use public transport as little as possible.
    If we are in one of the extremely vulnerable groups, limit social and group gatherings for the peak virus time. (A big cluster in the States was centred on a synagogue, the same would true of a church or mosque or social function)
    It may be necessary to limit contact with younger family members.
    I am going to look into groceries being delivered.
    I am open to any ideas you may come up with.

    I am not as yet constructing a port cullis or drawbridge! :)
    Derek
     
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  16. Winnie53

    Winnie53 Type 2 · BANNED

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    Indy51 thank you. Great information and aligned with Peter Osborne's and Andrew Saul's recommendations that I've posted here. Hadn't thought about elderberry syrup or mushrooms yet. Or saunas. All very helpful. If things get bad, have you considered sheltering in place and having someone shop for you. Remember, you can still go outside. Just maintain distance from people, then wash hands when you return home. Preparing for the worst, hoping for the best...
     
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  17. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    If the river rises any more I won't need a moat..
     
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  18. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    Having just come back from a couple of months abroad, tourism is down. Not just down, but very down in some places, with one major, high end hotel in the capital closing, due to a downturn in trade. Hotel rooms were available everywhere, where people wanted or needed them. We were fortunate in that we would not have been wrestling bookings or concerned about hotel bills.

    To be honest, if all this still going on, I think staycations, or "domestic" holidays will have become popular.
     
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  19. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    Trouble with staycations is that it brings vast swathes of people to relatively rural and quiet areas, endangering the population living there who otherwise may not have been at risk.
     
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  20. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    So endangering foreigners is better then?
     
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