Diabetes UK-Say goodbye to fad diets

[britishpub]

This popped up in an email I received from Diabetes UK today...

"A ‘faddy’ diet is one where you are advised to do any of the following:

• cut out food groups (dairy and starchy carbs are popular - without there being a medical reason to do this)
• restrict an eating pattern to a few foods
• stick to fruit or vegetable juice

Many people think that all carbs are 'bad', and cut them from their diet.

However, all the evidence suggests that wholegrain carbs such as oats, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, fruit and veg are important for good health - especially heart health - and many people's intake is lower than it should be.

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

These people should be banned from giving "advice"

 

[Member496333]

Pretty sure Diabetes UK is where you go if you’re looking to get diabetes.

 

[lucylocket61]

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

This is the bit my DN is stuck on. She now accepts my low carbing is helping my blood sugar levels, but wont, just WONT accept that wholegrains etc are carbs.

and now my cholesterol has gone up to a shocking 6.1 I got the low-fat lecture too,until I politely shut her up.

 

[briped]

until I politely shut her up.

Why politely?

 

[johnme]

This popped up in an email I received from Diabetes UK today...

"A ‘faddy’ diet is one where you are advised to do any of the following:

• cut out food groups (dairy and starchy carbs are popular - without there being a medical reason to do this)
• restrict an eating pattern to a few foods
• stick to fruit or vegetable juice

Many people think that all carbs are 'bad', and cut them from their diet.

However, all the evidence suggests that wholegrain carbs such as oats, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, fruit and veg are important for good health - especially heart health - and many people's intake is lower than it should be.

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

These people should be banned from giving "advice"

´Its your fault for eating cakes. Whole grain bread has no negative effect at all’ is the underlying message

 

[lucylocket61]

Why politely?

Because its the only surgery for many miles, only DN within reach, and I need her cooperation as a gateway to other service.

Plus she can be taught, it only took 4 years to get her to accept the idea of low carbing not being from the devil himself : )

 

[Member496333]

It may be worth remembering that Diabetes UK are in bed with Britvic, the manufacturers of such nutritious beverages as Mountain Dew. They can hardly be considered the paragon of optimal diabetes management. Even if they didn’t already dish out life threatening advice to diabetics.

 

[briped]

Because its the only surgery for many miles, only DN within reach, and I need her cooperation as a gateway to other service.

Plus she can be taught, it only took 4 years to get her to accept the idea of low carbing not being from the devil himself : )

reasons accepted. Especially because she's not beyond pedagogical reach.

 

[zauberflote]

And anyway, chocolate (the cacao itself) has definite nutritional value.
I am probably going to be confronted by my cardiologist tomorrow. I respect her and her associates very much, but I know she’s going to throw the party line at me. Being as I don’t eat fatty meats anyway, maybe I’ll get off lightly.

 

[Colin of Kent]

Diabetes UK are in bed with Britvic

Intriguing... do tell.

I saw the update in the last issue of Balance, saying that low-carb can help T2. I thought, at least it's a step forward from denying that carbs have any role to play.

 

[bulkbiker]

Intriguing... do tell.

I saw the update in the last issue of Balance, saying that low-carb can help T2. I thought, at least it's a step forward from denying that carbs have any role to play.

Did you not see..?
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about-us/news/britvic-three-year-partnership

 

[Colin of Kent]

Did you not see..?
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about-us/news/britvic-three-year-partnership

Ah yes, I remember that one now. Surely DUK could have chosen a less controversial 'partner'? Three years seems like a long time. A bit like a presidential term... (I could say a government term, but given the current state of affairs...)

 

[LittleGreyCat]

This popped up in an email I received from Diabetes UK today...

"A ‘faddy’ diet is one where you are advised to do any of the following:

• cut out food groups (dairy and starchy carbs are popular - without there being a medical reason to do this)
• restrict an eating pattern to a few foods
• stick to fruit or vegetable juice

Many people think that all carbs are 'bad', and cut them from their diet.

However, all the evidence suggests that wholegrain carbs such as oats, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, fruit and veg are important for good health - especially heart health - and many people's intake is lower than it should be.

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

These people should be banned from giving "advice"

I have given up eating cake {sob} but I seem to recall that many cakes have eggs and butter in them.

So is this a definition of "no nutritional value" which has previously escaped me?

Fruit cakes have dried fruit..........need I go on?

 

[Diawara]

This popped up in an email I received from Diabetes UK today...

"A ‘faddy’ diet is one where you are advised to do any of the following:

• cut out food groups (dairy and starchy carbs are popular - without there being a medical reason to do this)
• restrict an eating pattern to a few foods
• stick to fruit or vegetable juice

Many people think that all carbs are 'bad', and cut them from their diet.

However, all the evidence suggests that wholegrain carbs such as oats, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, fruit and veg are important for good health - especially heart health - and many people's intake is lower than it should be.

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

These people should be banned from giving "advice"

my diabetic nurse was the one to give me my flu jab today and i tookthe opitunaty to have a rant against the other forum and nice guidelines and the eatwell plate .. also asked how many others at the practice had reversed type 2 through low carb/keto diet...she wasnt sure but not many. like i would guess she should know......ive got assume that was zero?

 

[therower]

Pretty sure Diabetes UK is where you go if you’re looking to get diabetes.

I’m not sure if all “ types” of diabetics have had to go looking for diabetes.
For some, diabetes comes looking for them.

 

[Robinredbreast]

I’m not sure if all “ types” of diabetics have had to go looking for diabetes.
For some, diabetes comes looking for them.

It pounced on me 30 years ago

 

[therower]

It pounced on me 30 years ago

. 28 yrs here.
Worst mistake it made picking on us two..

 

[Robinredbreast]

. 28 yrs here.
Worst mistake it made picking on us two..

lol kick diabetes a*s

 

[Guzzler]

My T2 was a Ninja cat and stalked me stealthily until it struck.

 

[Bluetit1802]

We do know that evidence indicates that low-carb diets can help people with Type 2 diabetes to lose weight and improve blood glucose control. This does not refer to the wholegrain carbs previously mentioned, but rather foods such as cakes, chocolates, sweets and crisps, which have no nutritional value."

********. Many of us do not have a sweet tooth, so the cakes, chocolates and sweets were rarely on the menu. Crisps maybe. But those of us that followed the general advice to eat wholegrains, oats, brown rice, wholegrain pasta and fruit ended up on this forum.

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