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Fasting v liver dump

Granny_grump_

Granny_grump_

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Got a bit of a problem which is more important to do my fasting overnight or break my fast before bed to help liver dump,
My morning BG I usually around 6s so not unusually high,appreciated any advice.K
 
May I ask when you get a liver dump?

Is your FBG a lot higher than the test immediately before bed? Or is your liver dump happening as soon as you wake up and lasting through the morning?
 
Bluetit1802 said:
May I ask when you get a liver dump?

Is your FBG a lot higher than the test immediately before bed? Or is your liver dump happening as soon as you wake up and lasting through the morning?
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They are usually in the 5 to 6 range,had an occasional 7 and 9 when I've tried new foods but not regularly, these are before bed
and same readings when I get up in morning
Sometimes I break my fast and have some protein and fats like ham or chicken with cream cheese because I'm not sure if I don't will my liver dump be high or not. I want to carry on with intermittent fasting because I would like to lose some weight and worry if I carry on breaking my fast I won't lose the weight.
I've been quite stable with my BG readings throughout the day for a while now,so would you say carry on fasting and not to worry about the liver dumps.K
 
bulkbiker said:
When are your fasting times?
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Hi bulkbiker my fasts are from 5 pm to 11am every day unless I have something in evening for liver dump but only done this about 4 times recently has my doctors fasting bloods is due tomorrow.
My readings are not high before bed and in morning they are between 5.7 and 6, do you think I need to bother eating for liver dumps and stay on my fasting?
I'm so unsure I feel each evening should I eat or should I not,any help much appreciated. Kathleen
 
Granny_grump_ said:
They are usually in the 5 to 6 range,had an occasional 7 and 9 when I've tried new foods but not regularly, these are before bed
and same readings when I get up in morning
Sometimes I break my fast and have some protein and fats like ham or chicken with cream cheese because I'm not sure if I don't will my liver dump be high or not. I want to carry on with intermittent fasting because I would like to lose some weight and worry if I carry on breaking my fast I won't lose the weight.
I've been quite stable with my BG readings throughout the day for a while now,so would you say carry on fasting and not to worry about the liver dumps.K
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If your bedtime readings are generally the same as your morning fasting, then you aren't having a liver dump. Your levels are stable at whatever level they were when you went to bed. With liver dumps you see a big rise in the mornings, higher than your bedtime ones. I would stop worrying, stop "breaking your fast" and just skip breakfast other than something zero carb and fatty. I fast from tea time to next day lunch time with nothing but water and a coffee with cream when I get up before doing anything else. This works for me.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
If your bedtime readings are generally the same as your morning fasting, then you aren't having a liver dump. Your levels are stable at whatever level they were when you went to bed. With liver dumps you see a big rise in the mornings, higher than your bedtime ones. I would stop worrying, stop "breaking your fast" and just skip breakfast other than something zero carb and fatty. I fast from tea time to next day lunch time with nothing but water and a coffee with cream when I get up before doing anything else. This works for me.
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Thank you very much I do same just have coffee with cream when I get up,what a relief I'm not doing anything wrong,I think it's because of my doctors fasting bloods tomorrow he gave me 3 months to get on track in January, so I hope I've done this I will breath when I get the results on Friday? Kathleen
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Thank you very much I do same just have coffee with cream when I get up,what a relief I'm not doing anything wrong,I think it's because of my doctors fasting bloods tomorrow he gave me 3 months to get on track in January, so I hope I've done this I will breath when I get the results on Friday? Kathleen
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You aren't doing anything wrong and seem to be doing very well. It's great you don't have a liver dump!

Good luck with your test. Don't have that coffee and cream when you get up or it won't be a true fasting and the cream may alter your triglyceride level. Make do with water. :)
 
Bluetit1802 said:
You aren't doing anything wrong and seem to be doing very well. It's great you don't have a liver dump!

Good luck with your test. Don't have that coffee and cream when you get up or it won't be a true fasting and the cream may alter your triglyceride level. Make do with water. :)
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Will do again thank you. Kathleen
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Thank you very much I do same just have coffee with cream when I get up,what a relief I'm not doing anything wrong,I think it's because of my doctors fasting bloods tomorrow he gave me 3 months to get on track in January, so I hope I've done this I will breath when I get the results on Friday? Kathleen
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Yeah I'd say just carry on sounds like you are doing a great job.. so long as you feel ok then no worries. Fingers crossed for excellent results tomorrow too.
 
bulkbiker said:
Yeah I'd say just carry on sounds like you are doing a great job.. so long as you feel ok then no worries. Fingers crossed for excellent results tomorrow too.
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Thank you to you and bluetit for your encouragement and help couldn't have done this without people like you so grateful. Kathleen xx
 
I only have very modest liver dumps, and until I used the Libre, I would have sworn I didn't have them.

However, my point is just to add that I can't get too uptight about liver dumps (they can happen during the day too), as all that is happening is your liver is releasing some of it's store. So, it's almost like going onto matter, instead of mains power for your laptop. Then, as soon as we eat, the first thing our body does is to recharge the liver's supplies - again, just as happens when a laptop is plugged it.

I quite like the idea od the "old" glucose in my liver being cycled through every now and then.

Of course, you must do what seems best for you, but please don't torture yourself over this. Whatever you do, it needs to be sustainable.
 
AndBreathe said:
I only have very modest liver dumps, and until I used the Libre, I would have sworn I didn't have them.

However, my point is just to add that I can't get too uptight about liver dumps (they can happen during the day too), as all that is happening is your liver is releasing some of it's store. So, it's almost like going onto matter, instead of mains power for your laptop. Then, as soon as we eat, the first thing our body does is to recharge the liver's supplies - again, just as happens when a laptop is plugged it.

I quite like the idea od the "old" glucose in my liver being cycled through every now and then.

Of course, you must do what seems best for you, but please don't torture yourself over this. Whatever you do, it needs to be sustainable.
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Again thanks just didn't understand these liver dumps and what to do about them,but I'm going to carry on doing what I have been doing and fast and not stress about the liver dumps. K
 
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