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Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by roveramb, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. roveramb

    roveramb · Newbie

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    I was told I had diabeties last November and I am struggling to come to terms with it even after all this time.
    Ive now been told the Metifomin is not acting as good as it should so I may be given a new drug .I have been told this could make me hypo if not watched and if I Drive and have a hypo I will loose my driving licence I then would not be able to get to work .Then my young family would suffer.
    I feel so fed up and my life has gone from a great happy life to this.

    I wish I had never gone to the Doctors and not found out about my type 2 and at least died happy .Iknow I will not be able to spend the rest of my life like this

    Does anyone else feel like this
     
  2. dawnmc

    dawnmc Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes often, however its not going to be as bad as you think, once you have got your head round it. What do you eat? Have you been told you can eat as before? Well the honest truth is you can't, but your life won't end. Read around the forum, most of us count carbs. There will be some good advice for you. Do you test your blood? Don't expect a meter from your doctor. You can get a meter off ebay with cheaper strips.
    Someone will be along soon to advice you how to eat and test.
    Oh and welcome to the forum, its a life saver and I mean that in every way.
     
  3. MaryJ

    MaryJ · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome roverramb

    You have found the best place to be in my opinion.

    Dawn is spot on with her advice, esp 'your life wont end' in fact it may just improve greatly.

    Mary x
     
  4. xyzzy

    xyzzy Other · Well-Known Member

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    Hello roverramb and welcome

    I was diagnosed early December last year so just a few weeks later than you and using the advice I found on the forum got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost nearly 4 stone in weight too. My doctor is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well. You can normalise your blood levels but that isn't the same as a cure I'm afraid. What it means is that you will need to be very careful about what you eat from now on.

    I've seen a lot of people like yourself arrive at the forum having a very similar story as yourself. The honest answer in my opinion is you need to take charge of the condition yourself and do things that other T2 diabetics have found to work rather than rely on what I found out to be old fashioned and out dated advice that many peoples GP's dish out. What most of us have found is adopting the right dietary regime is ten times more effective than any diabetic drug so I eat "safe" things and then just take Metformin as a bit of extra help. Like you have found taking Metformin and trying to continue the same diet (even the one the NHS recommends) doesn't work in many cases.

    What you should eat diet wise is really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

    The above regime is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend is different to what you have been told is a good diet for you follow.

    Next most members would recommend you test your own blood sugar levels. Has your doctor given you a meter and strips? Some do and some don't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti! If you ask and get told no then if you can afford to most members will get a meter and test themselves anyway. A meter that many people are buying at the moment is called as SD CodeFree. The meter and 50 strips will cost under £20 then new strips are just £5 per 50 which is a lot cheaper than most other meters. The cheapest place to buy is the healthcare.co.uk shop on eBay but make sure you get a UK mmol/l model and not a US mg/dl one or the numbers it shows will be confusing.

    The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

    As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

    Good luck and keep asking questions.

    Regards

    Steve

    PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

    First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

    http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

    Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

    http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
     
  5. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    Hi Roveramb and welcome to the forum :)
    You will soon find that having diabetes is not nearly as bad as you thought. Knowing a bit about it helps a lot and you have done an excellent thing joining this forum. Here is some information which we give to new members and I'm sure it will help you. If you have any questions, please ask, and someone will be able to answer you.

     
  6. millie_uk

    millie_uk · Active Member

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    When I was fist diagnosed I was ok the first few days then I sat and cried. I couldn't see how I could make drastic changes to my life but I thought about it and I did make changes. So glad I did because I feel so much better and no nasty symptoms any more.

    Be glad you did find out about your diabetes. I would rather be here for my family than be bothered about what I can't eat! although I know it is a lot to take in and difficult at times.

    I was diagnosed in May but I know I had it for quite some time before that and I should have gone to the doctors but thought I could turn a blind eye to it. I couldn't because I was developing more symptoms.

    The advice from the clinic was rubbish. I found this forum and so glad I did.
    I cut out refined sugar (probably a little will get in somewhere along the line), I cut out all starchy carbohydrates (apart from a few chips every couple of weeks) and baking, pastry etc.

    I get no high spikes in my blood glucose since starting low carbs just over 7 weeks ago. The first couple of weeks I was following the advice of the NHS and was getting huge spikes in my bg.

    However, my bg is still too high (I haven't been given any tablets yet). Mine varies between 7-9 most of the time but no high jumps because I have learnt so much here and know which foods to avoid. I will likely get Metformin next month so hopefully that will help with the morning rise in bg.

    I don't feel deprived of any foods. I just think about what certain foods will do to me.
    I still have fish in batter (minus 3/4 of the batter!) and a few chips every couple of weeks and when on a day trip I had a KFC (2 piece variety meal), took off most of the coating. I have had a few Indian meals, swapping Naan for chapati and only having a little basmati rice and had cauliflower bhaji instead of Bombay Potatoes.
    I'm eating well and decent portions too as well as snacks.

    Also, I am losing weight which should also help lower the bg.

    There's great advice on here and lots of recipes for low carb meals.

    All the people on here help support each other and I wouldn't be without this forum and we can have a good moan when we need to.

    Great about the stopping smoking. :) and good luck with the diabetes control
     
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