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Food Angels And Demons

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by Beer Goggles, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    Hi all,
    I'm newly diagnosed type 2. Obvious foods to avoid are beer, fat, sugar, red meat etc etc.
    The thing that puzzles me is what I call (trip up) foods. Foods that I once thought of as healthy I'm now told are sneaky imps secretly dumping sugar into my blood. Unknown demons such as orange juice, rice, grapes, currants. Then I read foods such as peanut butter, dates, nuts are OK.
    I'm trying to lengthen my tiny shopping list. Doesn't anybody do a nice list of the 'helping hero' foods.
    I am confused to the point of amateur Tourettes.
    What are the 'trip up imp' and 'helping hero' foods and drinks?
     
  2. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    LouiseW · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is a very clear explanation of what to eat and what to avoid.

    A lot of us here are devoted to eating this way for health as well as to control our diabetes. It's still controversial in some circles but with all the positive results you'll find from people on here, you'll find many solid endorsements for this way of eating.

    Good luck!
     
  4. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    Hi Beer Goggles and welcome to the forum :)

    Here is some information, which we give to new members, which should help you get some idea about how to eat. You will also get many suggestions and ideas from other members. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips
    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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    Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

    Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
     
  5. rtee

    rtee · Well-Known Member

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    Hi beergoggles!
    Yes, it is a bit confusing. I only found this site a few months ago and have drastically changed my diet to the lowcarb high fat way of eating. I have lost a stone and a half and brought my Hb1ac to 5.9 which is on it's way to non-diabetic figures.

    It takes a bit of getting used to to have cream and full fat rather than low fat everything but it works. :thumbup:
    I have cut out all flour, sugar and "underground" veggies as much as I can and use fresh not processed food.

    There are other people who are much more proficient and knowledgeable than me . Just search the boards especially the lowcarb section if you choose to go that way, and I'm sure you'll find lots of info to help you.
     
  6. Fraddycat

    Fraddycat · Well-Known Member

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    I swear by the LCHF website you were sent, but also have a look at Viv's modified Atkins Diet thread on here which is also really helpful

    viewtopic.php?f=18&t=18803
     
  7. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    That looks ideal. A cheerful smiley face on the home page too. Just what I need. Sob sob.
     
  8. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    Cheers to you Lou :thumbup:
     
  10. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    Cheers Fraddycat :)
     
  11. GraceK

    GraceK · Well-Known Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Amateur Tourettes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Good to see you've retained a sense of humour - it's half the battle. Diet doctor is brilliant btw.
     
  12. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    Oh I have to laugh, or I'll take a sugar cube and end it all. LOL
    At the moment diabetes is like the toilet U bend. I can't quite get my head around it.
    On top of that I have man flu from a horse needle flu jab the Doc stabbed into me.
    Most people are polite enough to simply sneeze on you for that.
    Cheers for reply mate.
    Love the giraffe BTW.
     
  13. LouiseW

    LouiseW · Well-Known Member

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    *visions of Beer Goggles with his head in the toilet trying to peer round the bend*

    Please pass the brain bleach! :crazy:
     
  14. Beer Goggles

    Beer Goggles · Member

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    It's how I got to look like this. Just call me Toilet Duck. :mrgreen:
     
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