grrrr pre and post bfast bgs whats yours.what you eaten

[whompa73]

Ok I am usually verry low to zero carb which means usually after breakfast I either dont go up by much or even lower as take meds with meal. I am however wanting to start re introducing a few more carbs into my diet as it is so confined in variety and getting very boring. So this morning I had 2 x burgen toast ( the small half size loaf) and 2table spoons beans and some bacon. Oh and 2 metformin. My bgs this morning was arround 7.5 but that was 2.5 hours before I ate and wanting to conserve strips I decided to forgo pre bfast test and besides I would have normally come down to arround or just below 7 by then . I also thought that because I had done so well getting bgs down that I shouldnt realy see much diffrence. I was wrong it was my highest reading for over a week and that one was when I was feeling down si ate somthing I shouldn't. So bareing in mind the burgen was the half loaf and low carb compaired to other breads and also considerd gower gi than most breads . My bgs was 8.9 which I realise isnt high in the grand sceem or things but far higher than I or my dr want me to be (due to kidney damage). I will have to test now aswell to see how long it takes to return to normal (well normal for me). I not happy especially as I have realy missed beans on toast :cry: . So whatwhere your readings this morning and what did you eat.

 

[whompa73]

Reading a 2h40min 9.9 *** :eh:

 

[paul-1976]

Hi James !

It's the Burgen bread that did it I reckon as 2 slices of that is around 24gs of carbs in one go so perhaps swapping Burgen for the Livlife seriously seeded bread at 3.8gs a slice would be much better if you want some toast with breakfast.

I had a late one last night so I haven't had brekkie yet I'm currently at 5.2 mmol/s so I'll post my after Brunch reading later.

Best

Paul

 

[mrman]

Hi, as you have been low to zero carbing your current meds work for that. Changing what you eat to re~introduce done/more carbs would also need a change in meds. I realise some type 2s can control levels through diet and excercise, and also improve sensitivity with weight loss but not always the case, as the old saying goes everyones different.

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[CollieBoy]

Whompa,
Problem is: what caused the rise, you had Burgen AND beans (probably ain't gonna be the bacon unless cured in sugar or the metfartin :lol: ) so we need to introduce foods one at a time (try one slice of Burgen at first, then beans at another meal)
personally think it was likely the beans as commercial baked beans are very sugary!
Good luck :thumbup:

 

[audsital]

Hey whompa, i agree that it prob was the beans. I came back to uk wed eve n had a right hankering for heinz spaghetti on toast (we dont get tin of spaghetti in italy). Afterwards my bg was 242 and it was only then i looked at the can n saw it contained. Sugar n glucose/fructose syrup....sigh, wont have that again :-(

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[noblehead]

Appreciate you have to watch your protein intake if you have kidney problems Whompa, why not do as FC suggests and have one slice of toast tomorrow and perhaps a spoonful less of the beans, to make up for it grill some mushrooms :thumbup:

 

[whompa73]

The burgen as it is the half size if I remember rightly was 8 grms per silce. And yes I know better than beans on toast but oh how I have missed it. As for bgs now at 3h 10min they have come back down to 7.6 . I have however been out on a 2 hour patroll so with that and usuall diet pluss metformin I would expect to be between 6.5 to 6.9 maybe a little either way but probably leaning towards lower. I realise I'm not even 2 months into it and for that amount of time have superb control. But its stuff like this that just throw me a little. Oh well onwards and downwards lol. Still need to figure a better diet though. Also my dn said that I was on the highest amount for met she either would or could put me on . That being said I am struggling whith the amount now as quite often I just feel yuck and im sure it the pills just not quite sure which ones lol

 

[badcat]

What I'd take from those readings is that the breakfast you had puts your BM's up by around 3 points so is fine to eat if your per meal BM is under 5.5. If the premeal is higher then you need to decrease the carbs by reducing the bread /beans
This morning my per breakfast reading was 6.6 so I had a serving of some left over bacon & avocado salad I made for tea yesterday (4.2g carbs) and had lite soya milk coffee rather than tea with normal milk to keep carbs down ( 0.5g rather than 1.7g)
2 hours post breakfast BM's had barely moved ( I take Gliclizide too)

 

[CollieBoy]

With respect to noblehead, try the toast with NO beans (eliminate the beans), by all means try the mushrooms, so that you can check the effect :thumbup:
I am CKD so understand the protein problem.

 

[whompa73]

Must admit I realy realy enjoyed the beans . But not satisfied whith the bgs so will have to find alternative . But to be fair if I had not forgoten to pick egges up from my mums I would have been having scrambled eggs ( mum has livery farm and keeps chickens aswell best eggs in the world down side it I can no longer stand to eat supermarket eggs) I do however love mushrooms . There is a way forward out there it just finding it

 

[whompa73]

Just tested again 4h 25 min after bfast and now giong to eat meat only dinner ( have to go out shortly on 4 h patrol) and its down to 6.5 I just dont get how it can come down so fast (I'm not complaining I just dont get it)

 

[phoenix]

When Steffansson and Anderson completed their year on an all meat diet they had a glucose tolerance test. The results for both men were abnormally high. After a few weeks on a 'normal' mixed diet they did another test and this time produced normal, non diabetic results.
If you have been eating very little carbohydrate for a while then whatever carbs you reintroduce may also produce an elevated result. This glucose intolerance following a low carb diet is a known phenomenon and indeed is the reason why people taking a glucose tolerance test should eat at least 150g carb for at least 3 days before the test.
(I'll stop there, the whys and wherefores are too difficult/ controversial for a peaceful Sunday afternoon !)

Change your diet gradually but don't make big assumptions from the results of one meal.

However, I agree about the sauce on baked beans being very sweet.

 

[whompa73]

Now 2hours after and no carb meal and 1 metformin im at 6 which is good infsct one of my lowest results :thumbup: