Has anyone in the UK been prescribed 'NovoPen® 6 & NovoPen Echo?'

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Hello has anyone in the UK been prescribed, 'NovoPen® 6 & NovoPen Echo 5 Plus?' I would really to hear from you even if you have asked or been refused any of them. I have recently bought two Timesulin caps for my flex pens Levemir/and Novorapid, but I'm still in doubt about how much I have taken even after a few minutes.

If you can't receive any of them on prescription and where would be the safest place to order them from? I know with the echo 5 pens it tells you how much your last insulin dose was, but to have a digital log of how much and when units of insulin would amazing!

I haven't had a refillable cartridge pen for years as I found them really heavy and was changed to disposable pens. For those who have the echo 5 pen or similar are they heavy?

Many thanks.
 
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Hello has anyone in the UK been prescribed, 'NovoPen® 6 & NovoPen Echo?' I would really to hear from you even if you have asked or been refused any of them. I have recently bought two Timesulin caps for my flex pens Levemir/and Novorapid, but I'm still in doubt about how much I have taken even after a few minutes.

If you can't receive any of them on prescription and where would be the safest place to order them from? I know with the echo 5 pens it tells you how much your last insulin dose was, but to have a digital log of how much and when units of insulin would amazing!

I haven't had a refillable cartridge pen for years as I found them really heavy and was changed to disposable pens. For those who have the echo 5 pen or similar are they heavy?

Many thanks.
I was first given NovoPen Echo by a hospital Diabetes Nurse eight years ago, and then got a second one on prescription from the GP. I needed two pens, in different colours, one for NovoRapid and the other for Tresiba. I like NovoPen Echo pens because they also measure half doses. Although I have been using an insulin pump for over three years now, I still have NovoPen Echos with me as a back-up. They weight about 60 gr (with insulin in) and are less bulky than the disposable pens were eight years ago.
 
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I was given 2 Pen 6 by Daiabetic Unit at Hodpital
 
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I have an Echo 5 pen which I've used for several years. Not really very heavy.
 

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I was given the NovoPen Echo (1 red one for NovoRapid, 1 blue for Levemir) on diagnosis in December. I did a bit of research on the NovoPen 6 & NovoPen Echo Plus and I would like to get the Echo Plus, however I'm unsure if its on the NHS and if I would be able to change pens.
 

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I saw that the NovoPen Echo 6 has just been approved by the NHS. It’s one I’d like but I don’t know if the local CGC or the GP’s budget will stretch to it. I’ll be asking. I use prescribed two NovoPen Echos, different colours for bolus and basal, and have been for some years. Anyone know the price difference between 5 and 6?
 

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I was given 2 Pen 6 by Diabetic Unit at Hodpital
I am waiting to get an appointment with a Dr at the Diabetic hospital unit and I will ask them about the echopen6 then.
 

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echopen 6 looks very interesting, especially for recording once a day basal.
Can'y really see any point for fast acting though.
So, can we get it yet in the UK?
 

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I was given 2 echo 5’s - one for basal one for bolus as I am extremely insulin sensitive and need the ability to use the 1/2 dose option. They were given to me by my DSN at the hospital.
 

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Hello has anyone in the UK been prescribed, 'NovoPen® 6 & NovoPen Echo 5 Plus?' I would really to hear from you even if you have asked or been refused any of them. I have recently bought two Timesulin caps for my flex pens Levemir/and Novorapid, but I'm still in doubt about how much I have taken even after a few minutes.

If you can't receive any of them on prescription and where would be the safest place to order them from? I know with the echo 5 pens it tells you how much your last insulin dose was, but to have a digital log of how much and when units of insulin would amazing!

I haven't had a refillable cartridge pen for years as I found them really heavy and was changed to disposable pens. For those who have the echo 5 pen or similar are they heavy?

Many thanks.
I have novo echo pen as you can take half units which is incredibly helpful
 

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Interestingly, I needed a new spare Novopen.

On ordering my prescription last Monday I noticed the Novopen 6 was amended to my list saying the 5 was no longer available.
Soooo I’ve just picked it up (with the insulin & wot not.)
& followed the prompt in librelink to set the pen up..

Several failed attempts to tether the Novopen 6 to the app. Dispite hitting the NFC spot. It just made a scanned noise then an error.
Disappointment then an idea!

The app gives you 2 options of Novopen, the 6 & the echo plus before tethering? My new pen is certainly a 6.
I chose the “Echo plus” option & it works.!

If you use 2 Novo pens they can either be identified by the serial number on the twist out dose dialer. Or by the colour?
(If you use basal & bolus from Novo Nordisk. Which I don’t.)
 
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I’ve been using Novopen Echo Plus for a while now. Being able to record doses by scanning is a great innovation, but I think the battery power, or memory, need to be upgraded. Too many times that the function has failed before the material life of the pen.
 

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I’ve been using Novopen Echo Plus for a while now. Being able to record doses by scanning is a great innovation, but I think the battery power, or memory, need to be upgraded. Too many times that the function has failed before the material life of the pen.
It’s meant to have a 3 year warranty on the pen, looking at the instructions..?

I’ve only just this afternoon started using it. (Novopen 6.) I do have spare N5s the readout on the N5 was starting getting flakey & the overall state of the pen was tatty.
I’d had it for years…

It was bizarre that I had to choose “echo plus” in the LL app to tether the N6. (Edit.) get the app to read it..
 

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I've just thrown my novo echo pens away as for cost cutting purposes they won't prescribe novo rapid insulin anymore .
 

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I've just thrown my novo echo pens away as for cost cutting purposes they won't prescribe novo rapid insulin anymore .
What are you prescribed in it’s place?
 

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Trurapi , which apparently is a lot cheaper .
Sanofi brand.

Oddly, I found this on my search. https://newforestpcn.co.uk/network-services/medicines/trurapi#:~:text=Patients using Novorapid fast acting,biosimilar medication made by Sanofi.

It does say this.

“There are some situations in which you might not want to switch, for example:
  • If you are pregnant or planning a pregnancy you may want to wait until after you deliver your baby
  • If you are using an insulin pump we would not recommend changing at this time
  • If you use smart features of your current insulin pen e.g. bluetooth connectivity “
I’ve not been hit by this “recommended change.” I personally find Novorapid works great for me.
 

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Sanofi brand.

Oddly, I found this on my search. https://newforestpcn.co.uk/network-services/medicines/trurapi#:~:text=Patients using Novorapid fast acting,biosimilar medication made by Sanofi.

It does say this.

“There are some situations in which you might not want to switch, for example:
  • If you are pregnant or planning a pregnancy you may want to wait until after you deliver your baby
  • If you are using an insulin pump we would not recommend changing at this time
  • If you use smart features of your current insulin pen e.g. bluetooth connectivity “
I’ve not been hit by this “recommended change.” I personally find Novorapid works great for me.
I have been on the Trurapi for about 2 months now and haven't noticed any difference to the Novo rapid it's just as slow for me so if it's saving the NHS money that's good , it did hurt though throwing the pens away , I did have a bit of a clear out of old equipment and threw away old blood testing monitors and even an old wristband hypo alert , no use now so had to go !