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hello all, newbie here, a newbie who is not happy with diabetic nurse

steve-h

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
i am a bit confused as to why my diabetic nurse is wanting me to have injections, my last blood sugar test (early sept 2014) was 10.9, ok this is to high, but all my others have been between 7 and 9, last jan it was 6.4! just had my sugars done again and iam down to 9, this result is because i have been put back on gliclazide. so maybe i have lapsed a little but why would she want me to start on injections? my last diabetic nurse took me off gliclazide so was only on 3x500 metformins per day for about 2 years, i have been t2 for 5 years now.
 
Hi Steve and welcome to the forum :)

Hopefully @daisy will be along soon with her introductory advice to new members of the forum.
 
i am a bit confused as to why my diabetic nurse is wanting me to have injections, my last blood sugar test (early sept 2014) was 10.9, ok this is to high, but all my others have been between 7 and 9, last jan it was 6.4! just had my sugars done again and iam down to 9, this result is because i have been put back on gliclazide. so maybe i have lapsed a little but why would she want me to start on injections? my last diabetic nurse took me off gliclazide so was only on 3x500 metformins per day for about 2 years, i have been t2 for 5 years now.

What kind of injectable is it? Is it insulin or something like byetta?
 
she not told me that yet, i highjacked our discussion a little, iam wanting to do aother 3 months on metformin and gliclazide because iam sure i can get down to somewhere between 6 or 7 again.
 
Did you ask the nurse why? If not, you should.
she does not seem to think i will be able to get my sugar down, but can not see her logic in this seeing as my sugars where low before, i had a 10.6 then down to 9 in 3 months, i was hoping for better but dont think this is to bad, hoping to be around 7-7.5 feb.
 
Are you talking about your home meter readings in mmol/L? Your lab fasting in mmol/L? What about your postmeal levels and your HbA1c? Are they high as well?
 
you have completely lost me now with that lot. the sugar readings iam talking about is the blood test you have at the doctors,,,hba1c are they? they not my home readings.
 
Well, there's 2 you can get at the doctor's: a fasting blood glucose in mmol/L and an HbA1c that's in mmol/mol (or previously in %). What are your home readings like?
 
it is not fasting blood test, that much i can tell you, not done a home reading for a while but when do have a week or so doing them they can range from 6 to 11 ish
 
Hi Steve,

Your levels are too high. If that wasn't a fasting test, it was probably an HbA1c. If it was an Hba1c it is very high. I suggest you contact your surgery and ask which test it was before you make any decisions. They will tell you this over the phone.

I highly recommend you have a look at your diet. Something is making your levels that high, and more than likely this will be your diet. If you give us an idea of what you eat (what have you had today, for example) then maybe we can help.
 
Ok, assuming that the 10.9 is an HbA1c of 10.9%, then that's really high. You may want to check this site out that explains blood sugar levels and type 2 diabetes:

http://www.phlaunt.com/

It sucks to go on injections, but I think you should consider it. There's no shame in using whatever meds are necessary to get your blood glucose levels down. It's not your fault that your pancreas is not working properly.
 
i am having a read and finding it very complicated and hard to understand. i will call my doctors and see what type of blood tests iam having.
 
Ya, it's a lot to take in. Took me months to figure it out, or get close to figuring it out anyway. You should ask for a print out of the lab results. It can be useful to review away from the doctor's office where you can do it in a quiet setting and be able to think about the results and look things up online as needed.
 
didnt know that. will ask for one tomorrow. thanks for your help, hopefully be back with a bit more knowledge.
 
i am having a read and finding it very complicated and hard to understand. i will call my doctors and see what type of blood tests iam having.

Hi, I would say, give it time, don't panic.

What most do here is eat Low Carbohydrates and moderate to high fat so the diet ain't difficult.

What you may have to do is read a few packets & tins to check what the carbs are in some foods. But you do need to test, just before your meal then 2 hrs after to see what foods are affecting you.

But cutting out the bread, Pasta, Rice, potatoes. your numbers will soon start to fall. Eggs and bacon are ok, meats OK, a lot of above ground vegetables are OK (and a few below but you need to check these) but you maybe can only manage say 1 slice of wholemeal bread at a time.

I was having cereal 'Granola' that's a NO NO for me now didn't realize how many carbs were in the portion I was having.

It's a lot to take in at first but it will all come together, hang in there and you will eventually get control of those numbers.

All the people on this site will be very helpful, keep looking around and asking questions. Good luck at the Doc's

neil
 
@steve-h

Hi Steve and welcome to the forum :)

Hopefully @daisy will be along soon with her introductory advice to new members of the forum.

Hello Steve and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information which we give to new members even though you are not newly diagnosed. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
i am having a read and finding it very complicated and hard to understand. i will call my doctors and see what type of blood tests iam having.
Try www.dietdoctor.com
I low carb and eat more fat. Basically ditch bread, rice, pasta and potatoes. No cereal! Eat meat and fish with veggies. Your blood sugar will plummet - promise.
Bacon and egg for brekkie
Bits of cheese, tomatoes, mini sausages, avocado - whatever you fancy.
Steak in Diane sauce with veggies
Salmon and asparagus with hollandaise sauce
Choc mug cake.
No weighing anything! Easy. Look at my stats!
 
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