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Him indoors

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Good morning to you all :)

Just a quick hello from myself before I start to pick your brains on being a type2 diabetic. I was diagnosed around 6 years ago now and never took it too serious,I know silly me!

I take one 5mg tablet in the morning and nothing else. Recently Ive been thinking about my life style and how I really need to change some things including my diet pluss start doing some exercise.

My weight is at 19.5 stone and its now starting to have an effect on my day to day living,all my own doing tho,been ignoring my condition and thinkinking yeah I,am fine,when in reality I,aint! Ive always had a sweet tooth and loved my currys,I dont drink and 3 months ago I gave up a 50 aday roll up habit,been vaping sinse,so if I can stop that I hope to get my diet in control and my sugar levels.

Talking of wich,this morning I had 2 small toasted slices of brown bread with no butter and two fried eggs in frylite and a spoonfull of beans..2 and a half hours later I check levels and they are at 15.8 :( Not good huh!

When I was first diagnosed I was told they should be between 5 & 6 and under 10.00 2 hours after Ive eaten.....So yeah its time to get my head around this and sort my diet out.

Heres where you guys come in..

See you all around the boards.

Him indoors.
 
ohh leave the beans alone ahahah ful of suger and try the livelife bread to ..... taking control is easy if you do it in small steps for every meal you have have a walk for 10 mins or so and build it up and reduce the weight . ive just posted with a friend whos been ignoring his diabeties he may lose his foot today so if anything you learn here today make changes and keep going .. good luck young man x
 
Thanks Cath

See theres an example of not knowing what to eat,is there a diet sheet I could follow on here,sure there will be,just trying to navigate the site,I know nothing about carbs but I want to learn. I have other medical issues too like anxiety/panic attacks and agraphobic,Ive been indoors for 9 years now,but the good news is I have a exercise bike,its only got one wheel tho and no brakes hahaha

Ready and willing to take control,ears are open...

Sorry to hear about your friend thats shocking!! Hope he/she gets some good news today.

Him indoors.
 
Welcome to the forum, hopefully Daisy will be along soon to offer her advice to newbies to the forum :)
 
Hi, welcome.

One of the fundamental things for a diabetic to do is to reduce carb consumption, especially starchy carbs like bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. Carbs metabolise quickly into sugar in the bloodstream. Try and stick to foods that have less than 10g carbs per 100g (you will become an avid label-reader in the supermarket!). Ignore the 'of which sugar' bit. Avoid low or reduced fat products, they usually have added sugar. And drop any sugary stuff including most tropical fruits.

There's a good book called 'Carbs & Cals' which is full of photos of foods and meals with carb, fat, calorie counts etc. To lose weight you need to burn more calories than you eat. But get your blood sugars under control first, the weight may well follow anyway.

Good luck and ask questions!
 
what meds are you on, it might be worth speaking to the nurse if an increase for now is the best?

some of these sites helped me a lot, I found initially it was best for me to cut all grain, grain product, potato and fruit, till I got my level somewhere ok
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm because carbs don’t give up easy.

testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
food count
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
 
sanguine said:
Hi, welcome.

One of the fundamental things for a diabetic to do is to reduce carb consumption, especially starchy carbs like bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. Carbs metabolise quickly into sugar in the bloodstream. Try and stick to foods that have less than 10g carbs per 100g (you will become an avid label-reader in the supermarket!). Ignore the 'of which sugar' bit. Avoid low or reduced fat products, they usually have added sugar. And drop any sugary stuff including most tropical fruits.

There's a good book called 'Carbs & Cals' which is full of photos of foods and meals with carb, fat, calorie counts etc. To lose weight you need to burn more calories than you eat. But get your blood sugars under control first, the weight may well follow anyway.

Good luck and ask questions!
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Wow! No wonder Ive turned into a slob,I eat all the above on a regular basis,bread (white) being the most consumed on a daily basis,Ohhh dear I think this could be a long journey back..but a journey Im willing to take,I wont be able to checkout labels tho but my other half will on my behalf,thanks for the info and welcome.
 
jack412 said:
what meds are you on, it might be worth speaking to the nurse if an increase for now is the best?

some of these sites helped me a lot, I found initially it was best for me to cut all grain, grain product, potato and fruit, till I got my level somewhere ok
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm because carbs don’t give up easy.

testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
food count
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
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Hello Buddy,I only take 1 x 5mg of Glibenclamide in the morning,because Im house bound I dont really see a diabetic nurse,once a year if Im lucky,will discuss it at their next visit tho. Thanks for taking the time to say hello and sending them links,will have a read at them today.
 
Him indoors said:
Wow! No wonder Ive turned into a slob,I eat all the above on a regular basis,bread (white) being the most consumed on a daily basis,Ohhh dear I think this could be a long journey back..but a journey Im willing to take,I wont be able to checkout labels tho but my other half will on my behalf,thanks for the info and welcome.
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I was a bread freak all my life before diagnosis - some days I would literally eat nothing else. I thought I would never be able to drop it, but I did - the alternatives are not worth thinking about. This can be managed and you are taking the first steps so well done.
 
Him indoors said:
Hello Buddy,I only take 1 x 5mg of Glibenclamide in the morning,because Im house bound I dont really see a diabetic nurse,once a year if Im lucky,will discuss it at their next visit tho. Thanks for taking the time to say hello and sending them links,will have a read at them today.
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with a bit of grind if you're willing, you may get your BG back under control by your next appointment :)
the max dose of your drug is 15mg so there is room to move if the nurse thinks so.
 
Thinking back Jack I think my nurse did mention maybe taking two in the morning but me not wanting to take more pills said no thanks..will mention it tho next time.

Since Ive been ill for a number of years and money has been tight raising 4 kids. Are all these foods I,am supposed to be eating going to cost me a fortune? The money just aint there! I thought if I could eat less and exercise more then that would be it....I thought brown bread was good for me,its not,beans and pasta are a no no too,this could get tricky! I will do 10k a day on my exercise bike tho starting from today..But what the hell can I eat without it costing a bomb?

Thanks for the support guys,I really do appreciate it,is there a thread were I can look at things a type2 diabetic can eat in the morning/afternoon/evening and things that I can snack on between meals?
 
exercise for fitness, 3 x 30min a week, it's not much for losing weight.
you are going back to the old meat and 3 coloured veg and a dob of real butter, I haven't noticed any difference, just stay away from trendy stuff, cheap oat bran instead of 5 quid a pack of something you can't pronounce , phicilliums husks or spell :)
https://www.google.com.au/#q=cheap+low+carb+
 
noblehead said:
Welcome to the forum, hopefully Daisy will be along soon to offer her advice to newbies to the forum :)
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Hello Him indoors and welcome to the forum :)

I know you are not newly diagnosed but I think this information we give to new members will be useful to. Carry on asking questions and you will get lots of help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
First time I have herd the word Vaping, (had to look it up on google )never had e cigs; in my day when I gave up smoking:(
Good on you @Him indoors for giving up the dreaded roll ups. your are so right in saying that you can now control your diabetes.:)
Can your exercise bike be upgraded or is that a no no.

Best of luck and do not be to hard on yourself at first, just make sure you make good use from your BGmeter to help you with control.:)
 
izzzi said:
First time I have herd the word Vaping, (had to look it up on google )never had e cigs; in my day when I gave up smoking:(
Good on you @Him indoors for giving up the dreaded roll ups. your are so right in saying that you can now control your diabetes.:)
Can your exercise bike be upgraded or is that a no no.

Best of luck and do not be to hard on yourself at first, just make sure you make good use from your BGmeter to help you with control.:)
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Hiya Izzzi

Yeah the ecig has been a god send to be honest,you still get the nicotene hit without all the other nasty stuff,so yeah gave them up,last week Ive cut out salt and replaced it with pepper. Baby steps just now,need to learn to understand carbs tho,and exercise. I was having a joke when I said the exercise bike has one wheel and no brakes,most are the same so no need for an upgrade hahaha you made me giggle tho,so thanks for that.

Cheers for your support.

Him indoors.
 
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