lfcred

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Hi , here goes

I was diagnosed as a Type 2 in 2012 weighing 16 stones. Aged 32, no diabetes in the family . Hba1c was around 90. Never went on a diet just changed my diet and lost 4 stones in 3 years , brought my hba1c down to 52 was on metaformine 2x a day only . I am now weighing 13 stones and hit the gym 4 times a week lifting weights , 2 days a week doing CV , playing football. I was told to go onto taking insuline humuline M3 just over a year ago now. 12 units in the morning and 8 or 10 units in the evening As even though I lost so much weight , eating healthy and exercising . Doctors told me I'm doing everything possible but no other option. They still don't seem to be sure if I'm type 2 or a type 1 as I'm quite young to develop diabetes. The last hba1c I had was 60 , not good !!! Due to all my efforts. Am I a type 1 , so I need to go onto the basal as I have been advised I should by the doc,

Looking for some answers and advise ?. Any help would be appreciated as I feel now as I felt when I was first diagnosed. Are they any young bodybuilders out there ?
 
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Liam1955

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Hello Ifcred :) - Welcome to the Forum. @daisy1 will provide you with some basic information. Have a read and post any questions - someone will answer. William.
 
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Lynz84

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Hi @ifcred
There is a book that helped me enormously with understanding diabetes and goes through literally everything you need to know about it. Tablets, insulin, the effect of insulin and exercise on the body, pumps etc etc you name it this guy writes about it in a really nice way. It's called Think Like A Pancreas by Gary Scheiner. My advice would be to read this and see how you feel about going on insulin then. It's certainly no picnic and once you start it you can't stop it, however, if you can learn to manage it and live with it, you can feel so much better! (I'm type 1 btw).

Ps. Losing all that weight is amazing!! I'm struggling to get the energy for exercise at the moment but know I need to get off my bum!
 
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daisy1

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@Ifcred

Hello and welcome to the forum :) As William recommended, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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mfactor

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Hi @lfcred and welcome to the forum. @mfactor is a bodybuilder. I expect he will be along in due course.

Well bodybuilder yes .....young no :)

And type 2 so a bit uninformed about type 1 probs....

But hi @lfcred ......nice to see a fellow lifter on here..........any questions feel free to ask as have picked up a few tricks and tips about lifting with this thing along the way....
 
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lfcred

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Thanks guys... Do U take protein shakes ? I'm currently taking isolate whey before and after a workout , 25g each . Does not affect my blood sugar readings that much .why do my bs rise after a workout out ( weight lifting ) , ? Checked before it was 6.0 and 49 mins after 8.8 @mfactor...
 

mfactor

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Yep it will rise from the lifting.....thats normal , and at 8.8 I would not worry too much as long as it drops later, tho a tip I found that does work , tho it sounds counter intuitive is to eat a small amount of carbs before you lift.....

Protein shakes are fine but just make sure you look for low carb ones.......
 
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