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Hi All,
you all coping?
I was diagnosed (tho i had an idea already) in November 2008 with Type 2 Diabetes, after loosing 2 stone over a short period of time, and eye sight going blurry and being told to wear glasses by spec's savers (thanks spec savers, good job :? ). was put on metformin and told to take 2 a day as my blood sugar was hovering around 20-25 mmol , felt great the first few weeks huge amounts of energy and feeling generally happy( lasted a few weeks :cry: ), now Feb 2009 my eyesight has gone blurry again and my water intake has gone back to about 8-10 pints a day followed by the usual night time toilet trips,and and more weight loss,only now my memory seems to be going and i forget things.
I started measuring my blood lvl's in December and gave up when i was told the tabs were £25.
couldnt get to the doctor because of xmas and in January work commitments, managed to get an appointment for this friday after taking a days leave, which didnt go down well. but i see things are getting worse, ive never been a big sugar eater dont eat sweets and hate cake.I'm now feeling very depressed and looking around on the internet isnt helping as its all bad news with Diabetes. I must admit i havent taken this disease seriously as my Doc didnt seem too, the usual take 2 a day see u in A & E when u go into a coma..ty for listening..ticked off with T2
 
Hi Stuart and welcome to the forum,First off you really need to test,please try and get your doctor to prescribe test strips for your blood test monitor.Your blood sugar levels are obviously very high hence the blurry vision and the thirst.
Ask the doctor this question,how are you supposed to control your diet and diabetes if you do not know what your blood sugar levels are?
Can you give us some idea of what a typical day's intake of food is so that we can help you with some advice about your diet etc.
 
Thank you for the reply :)
Typical Mon-Fri , No breakfast, 1 Pill, Lunch, sandwiches and fruit, ( feeling tired and vision going around 14h00 ish) last meal is usually a home cooked meal, chicken and potatoes, or curry , or stew..and 1 pill .no fast food..sat-sun fried brekky :) 2 meals usually on weekends..

I do drink lager on friday and sat nights :)
 
Ok from that I can see that you need to reduce your carbohydrate intake.Bread,pasta ,rice,potatoes and flour based products all contain starchy carbs.these are converted 100% in the body into glucose.This makes your blood sugars rise.As you are not testing but have blurry vision I would think that they are making it rise quite a bit.Try either severely reducing the portions or doing without these altogether and see what effect this has.You really should eat breakfast as well.Do you take the pill without actually eating anything with it,or do you mean you take the pill with your lunch?
Please have a read round the forum and you will pick up advice about controlling your diet.
 
Thanks again Sugarless Sue,
I take the pill in the morning with nothing, then again evening with dinner.
I will reduce my carbs as u suggest and see if it will make a difference, are they risks of T2 becoming T1 ?
Out of curiousity what is the Death rate of T2 if untreated?

Thanks again
 
Hi Stuart,
Just adding to Sue's comments, it is essential that you have something to eat in the morning. During the night your liver starts pumping out glucose into your blood stream because you haven't eaten for a while, and it thinks your body is being starved - this is just a natural defence mechanism by your body. By morning your blood sugar level will be starting to go up. If you don't eat at that point then your liver will just pump out more and more glucose, which will send your blood sugar through the roof. The only way to stop this is to eat, even if its just an apple and a piece of cheese - don't have breakfast cereals because these will just make things worse.

Lager is another thing that will send your BS rocketing because it has a very high sugar content. Instead of ordinary lager have pilsner lager - this has all the sugar fermented out so won't spike your BS - but the extra fermentation means it is much stronger than ordinary lagers so take care!

To answer your last questions; T2 and T1 have completely different causes. A type 2 who has badly managed BS my need to go on to insulin, but they doesn't make them a type 1. Type 2 untreated - death within 2 years if you are lucky.
 
Hi Dennis,
Thank you, I dont realise that the glucose lvl rises during the night thats important information as i was wondering if i changed the times i take the metformin would make any difference.
Not too happy about the mortality rate tho...Guess its time to take this seriously as ive tried to ignore it since being diagnosed..Nobody wants to be told they have something that isnt cureable a hanging over your head 24/7..
Thanks again
 
.Nobody wants to be told they have something that isn't curable a hanging over your head 24/7..
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We all understand that sentiment,Stuart because it hangs over all of us!!That is why we do our best to help other diabetics take control of their diabetes and ward off the complications for as long as possible.
 
And you all do a great job :D
I have an appiontment on Friday with the doctor to check me over again,and the nurse has been called in to help with the BS monitoring , hope it all goes well.

Cheers
 
That's another point,Stuart,if they gave you your own test strips then the nurse would not have to call,freeing her up to help someone else!!
 
Yeah good point, she's only at the surgery 2 days a week, i dont know why they didnt give me the strips and lancets last time i was there to collect my metformin. :roll:
 
Apparently i have to see the Nurse before they issue anything, something to do with training on the Monitor, and what is best for me...i got the Boots own brand comes with Instructions too :)
 
in all fairness to you that is 'funny ' reading, not at you but with you, and ive had type 1 22 years......dont listen to everyone though as you will get scared to death!!
 
in response to dennis's comments about rise of blood levels in the morning. You mentioned to eat something first thing and this will help? surely that will only help it rise? i wake at 7.30 and BS is usually spot on. i live locally, and yes quite luckily, i can return home for breakfast at 9ish to have breakfast. but i do get highs at Mid morning (you may of noticed a subject i posted on forum) Do you think i would be better off injecting and having breakfast earlier to avoid these 'liver dumps'?
problem is my body clock is so used too braekkie at 9ish i would hate to have breakfast before 8!
i agree with your comments about 'pilsner'... suger turns to alchohol and is much better for the BS Levels
 
LWA said:
You mentioned to eat something first thing and this will help? surely that will only help it rise?
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Hi LWA,
My suggestion of an apple and piece of cheese was because this is relatively low carb (certainly far lower than any cereal would be) and would be enough to stop the liver dump. The carb in an apple would be considerably less than the glucose that the liver would produce until lunchtime.

i wake at 7.30 and BS is usually spot on. i live locally, and yes quite luckily, i can return home for breakfast at 9ish to have breakfast. but i do get highs at Mid morning (you may of noticed a subject i posted on forum) Do you think i would be better off injecting and having breakfast earlier to avoid these 'liver dumps'?
problem is my body clock is so used too braekkie at 9ish i would hate to have breakfast before 8!
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Do you test your BS before breakfast? If it is a liver dump that is causing your mid-morning high then a test when you get up and another just before your breakfast would show a progressive rise in BS. But I would have thought that, if you are on basal/bolus, then your overnight basal would take care of whatever the liver tries to do overnight. Which means your mid-morning high has another cause. Incidentally, as you are not eating until 9, what do you count as mid-morning? If it is less than 2 hours after your breakfast then any carbs you have eaten will still show in your BS.
 
Hi Stuart

I just joined yesterday but have been type 2 for 6rs or so

Know the confusion you are going through and what i like here (only been 2 days) have seen more comments from blokes and our point of view in this and other forums here than in all my chats with pals and work colleagues etc over the last 6 yrs - so its a boost

The moderators seem to really know there stuff but I wonder if they are actually diabetic doctors / nurses as they seem very very clued up on things - however thats not a bad thing really - it's why we come here.

I cant believe that you haven't been given testing strips etc - have you been told to go to your local hospitals diabetic clinic? Thats where I went and go to and they gave me all that stuff from day 1

If your doctor doesnt give you it I know it's awkward but I would demand to know why

It is a bit overwhelming at first so dont panic
 
Start here

http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html

and here

http://www.bloodsugar101.com/

then have a look through the stickies and Success Stories threads for more ideas

The way your BG has been going up anyway may be due to trying to follow the standard High Carb Low Fat Diet, or it's possible you are actually LADA (late developing Type 1), would be worth asking about this possibility as its often misdiagnosed and can sometimes progress really slowly.
 
LWA said:
in all fairness to you that is 'funny ' reading, not at you but with you, and ive had type 1 22 years......dont listen to everyone though as you will get scared to death!!
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I Think the medical institution dont bother as much as they should, and they dont always give you the information you need to control diabetes, I wasnt given any booklets etc when i was diagnosed, just handed pills and "see you later", was the response..oh great i got a disease for life and the doc says "next patient please",
So looking on the Internet for information is depressing as its all doom and gloom and you'll die if you dont take your meds or monitor your BS, and dont forget to watch your hands and feet cos they may fall off... :lol: when i got my BS monitor i ran out of fingers to prick i was so paronoid,no wonder people panic or dont take it seriously enough, as i did when i ran out of lances and tabs i stopped worrying and gave up until i felt unwell again.Its just as well this site is availbale for people to read and get some help :D
 
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