Hi I have very high blood sugar & HbA1c

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Hi my name is Carol and I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes yesterday at hospital.
I did a blood test and it was 33.3 so my doctor sent me up to the local hospital as I am not due to see the diabetic nurse until the 16th may, a wait of 6 weeks.My HbA1c level was 126 yesterday instead of 48.I felt really bad yesterday like I was drunk and walked like I was too, vision blurred , extremely dry mouth, wanted a drink constantly, so I was actually glad when I got to hospital and actually saw a very nice doctor who specialist in diabetes who was most annoyed that nobody had picked up my high levels as I’ve been having symptoms and blood tests for months as I had a heart attack in June last year which has pushed my blood sugar from being prediabetic to the levels it is now. So came away with more tablets and insulin.
 

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Hi @Carol M
Tagging @daisy1 for some welcome info.
Diagnosis comes as a big shock to most but things can be improved quickly.
Welcome to the forum.
 
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Welcome. You’ve come to the right place.

Can I suggest you take a good look at low carb high fat methods of eating (keto is just a version of this). It helps many of us lose significant amounts of weight, if desired, keep our numbers down and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and reduce or improve complications. Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth readings


https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/ for info including low carb made simple


And https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/ to show it really works and for motivation


and https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/ for food ideas


also https://www.dietdoctor.com/ for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy.


Also it’s very important to be able to check for yourself what’s happening so you can make the necessary adjustments day to day and meal by meal rather than wait 3,6 or even 12 months and then have no idea what had what effect. Getting a blood glucose meter is the only way to do this (no matter what contradictory advice you may have heard - it’s usually budget based rather than anything more scientific). Please ask if you want any guidance on this.



IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE ON MEDS CONSIDERING LOWERING CARBS: if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc (this is not relevant for metformin on its own) than your new carb intake requires. Keep a close eye on your numbers and ideally do this with your dr. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around.
 

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Hi my name is Carol and I have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes yesterday at hospital.
I did a blood test and it was 33.3 so my doctor sent me up to the local hospital as I am not due to see the diabetic nurse until the 16th may, a wait of 6 weeks.My HbA1c level was 126 yesterday instead of 48.I felt really bad yesterday like I was drunk and walked like I was too, vision blurred , extremely dry mouth, wanted a drink constantly, so I was actually glad when I got to hospital and actually saw a very nice doctor who specialist in diabetes who was most annoyed that nobody had picked up my high levels as I’ve been having symptoms and blood tests for months as I had a heart attack in June last year which has pushed my blood sugar from being prediabetic to the levels it is now. So came away with more tablets and insulin.

Hello there Carol - what a shocker you've had.

I note you say you've come away from hospital with tablets and insulin. Is it fair to assume you are taking fixed doses of insulin, as opposed to calculating them match your eating and drinking?

If you are considering changing your diet in any way, please seek advice for that, as making significant changes, particularly in the early days of taking insulin can lead to unpredictable results.

Could you tell us which meds you went home with? It is pretty important really.
 
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Hi @Carol M and welcome. I don't know how you found your way here but You have made a very good decision. Most of us started with the shock of diagnosis and the following anxiety. (I was more than a bit grumpy that my surgery had "forgotten" to test my sugar for a few years and it was my growing concern that prompted renewed testing and my T2 diagnosis).
Do have a look round the forum - especially the Type 2 one - and feel free to ask anything you like. They are a nice bunch on here and you are in good hands. All the best, NMD.
 
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Welcome to the forum @Carol M

Glad you found your way here. Of all the websites and forums I looked at when I was re-diagnosed with type 2 diabetes four years ago, this one was the best and continues to be the most informative and helpful.

I'm in the US so am going to translate your numbers to the units we use here...

Non-fasting blood glucose 33.3 mmol/L (UK); 599.9 mg/dL (US)
HbA1c 126 mmol/mol (UK); 13.7% (US)
Average blood glucose 19.2 mmol/L (UK); 345.6 mg/dL (US)

We've had a couple of members come through our local diabetes group with blood glucose levels similar to and higher than yours. Both were able to get their levels down with diet, sometimes with medication initially, so you're not alone. This can be turned around. It's astounding how quickly blood glucose levels can go from bad to much worse.

The gift of diabetes is that it alerts us to our poor health.

The good news is that most lab test results can be significantly improved in just a few months with changes to the diet. (And I should add here, I was eating a healthy diet but my body just couldn't handle the amount of carbs I was eating. Your experience may be similar.)

When I was re-diagnosed, my A1c was 84.7 mmol/mol (UK); 9.9% (US). My last A1c was 39.9 mmol/mol (UK); 5.8% (US) and I'm working to get it down further into the "non-diabetes" range.

I began 4 years ago by eating a real, whole foods diet. I alternate between using the low carbohydrate high (healthy) fat (LCHF) diet which is 50+ carbs a day and the ketogenic diet which is less than 50 carbs a day. I also walk daily or every other day, though this was very difficult for me in the beginning. More recently I've begun using intermittent fasting 9 days a month for weight loss. There's lots of strategies available to you to improve your health, and you'll be able to learn about them all through forum members here.

Others here are familiar with using diabetes medications and insulin. (I'm not). Once they know the specifics of what you were prescribed and what you've been instructed to do, they'll be able to provide you with more information as you work through the initial shock and begin to make sense of it all.

Once you've decided on what strategies to try, you'll begin to better understand what works and what doesn't work for you as you begin restoring your health. :)
 

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@Carol M
Hello Carol and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

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As you have had a heart attack you should be very careful about changing you diet to much and eating more fat as recommended here we are not experts here so can't say that will be right for you. You really need to speak to you medical advisors about it
 

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As you have had a heart attack you should be very careful about changing you diet to much and eating more fat as recommended here we are not experts here so can't say that will be right for you. You really need to speak to you medical advisors about it
To be fair the current diet isn’t working too well either! Though more and more evidence shows fat in diets is not the heart risk once believed to be. But yes changes are best made in cooperation with medical teams
 

GaryC46

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Carol don’t panic just about everyone on this forum has been in the same situation, l certainly was.
Try cutting out as many carbs as you can, I found I had to eat less and move more, I was diet and tablet controlled for 20+ years but ended up on Insulin.
 

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Hi Carol I am new on here I was real high too I work away so takeaways and alcohol not good but I have a job outside so I walk a lot now I have kale omelette fruit grapes strawberries blueberries celery red peppers I love curry so garlic turmeric cinnamon ginger good I had to drink ultra light larger which strength week lol so have couple Holstein with it my levels dropped to 5/6 in the morning think highest now 10/11 I was up at 32
 
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