high gloucose readings

f1honeybunny

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I have just had my six months check up and have been told I have to use a blood glucose monitor (I have type 2 diabetes I am trying to control with pills and diet)
I have had my metformin changed to slow release to help with the side effects (diarrhoea!) I have lots of pills at least 3 quote this as a side effect!
I am disabled I can barely walk diarrhoea is the last thing I need! I cant rush to the loo!!
Anyway I have been told NOT to check my bloods too often as i will get sore fingers and wont be able to do much if I do have a problem (helpful nurse at our practice!?!)

well I have managed it twice so far the first time it read 18.8 (on 28/02/2015) and today it was 19.9 (03/03/2015) but I have been ill all day due to medication problems and the good old diarrhoea so when I did the blood test I was 'empty' of food.yet it read 19.9 what am I doing wrong??
how can I lower it I saw on the internet you should exercise loads and drink lots of water I cant exercise but I do drink water,I am teetotal and don't smoke or drink tea or coffee.
I am very worried please advise.

Thank You
 

Pasha

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Hi f1honey money,

Sorry to hear of your misery, but glad to learn that you have a glucometer. You mention that you are using a diet to help you control your blood glucose values. If you read through the posts in this forum you will find that most people use the Low Carbohydrate High Fat diet to control their blood glucose values. Which kind of diet are you following ? . By the way you dont need to do exercises to drop the BG values.
 

jack412

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Hi, it's good you have a meter, ideally you check before you eat and 2 hrs afterwards and look for less than a 2mm rise
I think it may take a month or two till your BG settles to it's level with diet..normally it will be high of a morning and drop during the day to start with.
I think diet is 80%, drugs and exercise 20%
From the Southport gp who posts here
http://www.practicaldiabetes.com/Sp.../March 2014/PP Unwin final proofs revised.pdf

it’s a long page and a few good video’s
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm
 

Mike d

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I have just had my six months check up and have been told I have to use a blood glucose monitor (I have type 2 diabetes I am trying to control with pills and diet)
I have had my metformin changed to slow release to help with the side effects (diarrhoea!) I have lots of pills at least 3 quote this as a side effect!
I am disabled I can barely walk diarrhoea is the last thing I need! I cant rush to the loo!!
Anyway I have been told NOT to check my bloods too often as i will get sore fingers and wont be able to do much if I do have a problem (helpful nurse at our practice!?!)

well I have managed it twice so far the first time it read 18.8 (on 28/02/2015) and today it was 19.9 (03/03/2015) but I have been ill all day due to medication problems and the good old diarrhoea so when I did the blood test I was 'empty' of food.yet it read 19.9 what am I doing wrong??
how can I lower it I saw on the internet you should exercise loads and drink lots of water I cant exercise but I do drink water,I am teetotal and don't smoke or drink tea or coffee.
I am very worried please advise.

Thank You
A nurse warned you about sore fingers? Shaking my head here. That is dumb beyond belief. First up, testing does not hurt at all (change fingers, adjust lancet settings etc) unless you are averse to the entire procedure. You shouldn't be but I understand if you are. Put it this way, if you don't test, you don't know. And test you must :)

First up, what is your diet? Those figures need to be brought down f1 ..... double figures are not that great.

The slow release metformin is a lot easier in regard to loo visits ...... hardly ever heard of anyone who (on those meds) hasn't suggested otherwise

Mike
 

f1honeybunny

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Hi f1honey money,

Sorry to hear of your misery, but glad to learn that you have a glucometer. You mention that you are using a diet to help you control your blood glucose values. If you read through the posts in this forum you will find that most people use the Low Carbohydrate High Fat diet to control their blood glucose values. Which kind of diet are you following ? . By the way you dont need to do exercises to drop the BG values.


what sort of foods are on this diet?I also have severe food allergies which make me seriously ill,I cant digest fat so I don't eat high fat food,so I don't think I would be able to follow that one.i am also lactose intolerant and am allergic to eggs and have ibs.if I try to eat fatty food my stomach says no and i am back in my second home(the loo)
I am just eating carefully when I was first diagnosed in 2014 I also have pcos I weighed 30.2 stone I now weigh 23.3 loosing weight is very hard with pcos too.i haven't got a particular diet just trying to manage with
what I know I can eat.no fat no pastry steam veg lots of water if any drink squash and soft drinks they are diet varieties.what can I do??
I sleep badly due to the pain of fibromyalgia when I do sleep its late ,hence the posting Time of this post.

I am not awake at breakfast time I probably don't get up till about 2pm so eat at tea time only on top of that metformin has a side effect of loss of appitite I am just not hungry.
it hurts to chew and I am so tired I am not bothered about food.
any help would be welcome
thank you
 

jack412

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what sort of foods are on this diet?I also have severe food allergies which make me seriously ill,I cant digest fat so I don't eat high fat food,so I don't think I would be able to follow that one.i am also lactose intolerant and am allergic to eggs and have ibs.if I try to eat fatty food my stomach says no and i am back in my second home(the loo)
I am just eating carefully when I was first diagnosed in 2014 I also have pcos I weighed 30.2 stone I now weigh 23.3 loosing weight is very hard with pcos too.i haven't got a particular diet just trying to manage with
what I know I can eat.no fat no pastry steam veg lots of water if any drink squash and soft drinks they are diet varieties.what can I do??
I sleep badly due to the pain of fibromyalgia when I do sleep its late ,hence the posting Time of this post.

I am not awake at breakfast time I probably don't get up till about 2pm so eat at tea time only on top of that metformin has a side effect of loss of appitite I am just not hungry.
it hurts to chew and I am so tired I am not bothered about food.
any help would be welcome
thank you
a change of diet will mess you around till you get use to it, but LCHF is good for your IBS too
https://www.google.com.au/#q=lchf+ibs

you can't do low carb low fat..it doesn't work and you will be driven back to carbs
"Dr Eric C. Westman, MD and president elect of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians, has 15 years of experience helping patients lose weight and improve their health using low carb. He has also helped do several high-quality scientific studies on low carb."

" Don't do low fat " @4.00 minutes in to video

 

f1honeybunny

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trouble is its not a new thing this low fat diet I HAVE to avoid fatty things I have been like that for over ten years my body just wont except fat I try every so often and the end results the same Diarrhoea!!

if I try to eat eggs-diarrhoea,drink milk -diarrhoea,eat sausages,bacon,fish and chips -diarrhoea.
I had gastroenteritis as a baby and a hernia my mum said the doctor told her my stomach will always be my weakness I do seem to get problems with it more often than not.

I cant absorb fibre so wholemeal is out the dietician said i am the strangest case she has ever come across with all my allergies and illnesses.
I am severely allergic to strawberries and smoked fish and cant even touch them as my throat closes up!
 

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Losing that weight is great. I am genuinely sad to hear about your other issues as that must be a pain to live with.

May i suggest you seek some further guidance? With your food intolerances, that might be a good idea? Yes?

What did you do to lose that 7 stone?

You surely must feel better as a result.

My best

Mike
 

Pasha

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what sort of foods are on this diet?I also have severe food allergies which make me seriously ill,I cant digest fat so I don't eat high fat food,so I don't think I would be able to follow that one.i am also lactose intolerant and am allergic to eggs and have ibs.if I try to eat fatty food my stomach says no and i am back in my second home(the loo)
I am just eating carefully when I was first diagnosed in 2014 I also have pcos I weighed 30.2 stone I now weigh 23.3 loosing weight is very hard with pcos too.i haven't got a particular diet just trying to manage with
what I know I can eat.no fat no pastry steam veg lots of water if any drink squash and soft drinks they are diet varieties.what can I do??
I sleep badly due to the pain of fibromyalgia when I do sleep its late ,hence the posting Time of this post.

I am not awake at breakfast time I probably don't get up till about 2pm so eat at tea time only on top of that metformin has a side effect of loss of appitite I am just not hungry.
it hurts to chew and I am so tired I am not bothered about food.
any help would be welcome
thank you

I dont want to be rude by not answering your reply, but I am simply unqualified to offer the correct advice. I guess only specialist doctors can give you the required guidance for going forward.
 

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Agreed Pasha ......
 

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I guess you need to see your Dr/dietitian, you may need to eat carbs and take meds or insulin to keep BG stable. The priority has to be to get your BG right
 

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I am concerned with points that others have mentioned here.
You need to see a different nurse or your GP as your levels are way too high. You have a limited source of foods to choose from, but I would like to know if olive oil or avocados or olives have the same affect as the more generalised dairy products that you have listed as giving you problems.
Have you had a lactose or dairy intolerance test done to confirm intolerance?
Can you eat nuts such as walnuts?

I am concerned that your levels are too high and that whilst you are trying to adopt some differences to the foods that you are eating that you need more medication whilst you are trying to make changes.

Drs do not have to keep you on metformin if you have problems with your stomach. They could change to a different drug.

I would get an appointment as soon as possible to discuss your high levels which will cause you to not feel well and to ask the GP if you can have a drug that does not affect the stomach actions that you get.