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I've become a low carb binger..

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by Lovejoy00, Feb 25, 2018.

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  1. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    Please, please can this informative thread not get threadjacked by anyone and shut down. This is such an important mechanism for me to understand. It could make a big difference to how I handle my CFS from a dietary point of view.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Where does she say that please?
     
  3. Dr Snoddy

    Dr Snoddy Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yep, back to my previous post. The products of the metabolism of fat, CO2, water and heat are excreted. Visceral and subcutaneous fat cannot be excreted!
     
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  4. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    post number 8.
     
  5. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    If you really want to understand the various stages of fat adaptation I will do some searching for you tomorrow and send you some links by PM.
    I can't see the point in posting anything here where the uninformed will simply score petty points and think they are being clever.
     
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  6. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    just when I thought I was grasping something, I am lost again.

    so, if I eat too much fat, it is excreted because fat adaption means it doesnt become visceral or subcutaneous fat?
     
  7. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    So where do they go if you "loose" them they must be burnt as energy. There is literally nowhere else for them to go surely.
     
  8. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    So, excess fat goes to heat?
    Not toilet floaters?

    Is this true?

    (sorry for the terms, but I really think it's the only way to phrase it)
     
  9. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    I appreciate your help.

    I got into this CFS mess partly because my doctor kept telling me to eat more carbs for energy, then I got diabetes too. I have a different doctor, found this site, and my life changed, by my CFS hasnt changed much. I trying somehting else is worth a punt, I am willing to try it, once I understand it.
     
  10. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Sorry that's not what I read there.
     
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  11. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You know, if it needs to be PM, question why?
    If it doesn't stand up to being questioned, I tend to bin it.

    No offense to anyone like, but it seems excess fat goes to heat.
    I never knew that.
     
  12. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If excess fat goes to to heat, and you lose weight on LCHF, why do you feel cold when you lose weight?

    Asking for a friend
     
  13. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    CFS does seem to benefit from a keto diet, but you need very low carbs.
     
  14. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    excess fat is excreted after a while on LCHF.

    that bit. That if we eat too much fat, it is excreted - that means it isnt stored as visceral or subcutaneous fat, doesnt it. Which is in direct contradiction to the other links i posted about being aware of how much we are eating even when LCHF-ing, as we can put on weight.

    Therefore, as i read it, the idea that it doesnt matter how much fat we eat as it is either used or goes down the toilet, is wrong.

    I really cant afford to stop counting calories as well as carbs, on the unproven idea that any excess will go right through me, so it doesnt matter if I just eat until I am full, whenever I am hungry.
     
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  15. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    got any links to scientific studies please? I havent found any with my google-fu recently.
     
  16. Dr Snoddy

    Dr Snoddy Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It is now past my bedtime! I shall wait until tomorrow to see if some of the misconceptions have been resolved. Good night to you all!
     
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  17. Dr Snoddy

    Dr Snoddy Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Fat under the skin acts as a heat insulator. Less fat = feeling colder as more body heat is lost.
     
  18. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I can't say it's scientific.
    It could be another snake oil salesman.
    (this site appears to has a few)

    But, I have a mate with a kid, and a friends who's wife points her to
    http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Ketogenic_diet_-_the_practical_details

    Obviously, like all the gurus, the site sells miraculous fixes, but the basics still seem to be helpful.
    It's not a magic fix, it just makes the better days last a bit longer, and the c**p days not so c**p.
    But it does seem to be better.
     
  19. jcbman

    jcbman I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    More calories burning, more heat, feel warmer.
    You can't argue both sides really.

    Or is burning fat for heat utter rubbish?
     
  20. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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