Just Been Told I'm Diabetic

FractalFragger

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Hi peeps,

I have just been told im diabetic by my GP, he said my sugar levels are up at 8.4. I have one question as i need to understand this in my head.

1. What type do i have? (He didnt mention this)

i dont have to take any meds or injections just dietting at the moment.

any help to get me to grips with this would be greatly appreciated.

Mark
 

ladybird64

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FractalFragger said:
Hi peeps,

I have just been told im diabetic by my GP, he said my sugar levels are up at 8.4. I have one question as i need to understand this in my head.

1. What type do i have? (He didnt mention this)

i dont have to take any meds or injections just dietting at the moment.

any help to get me to grips with this would be greatly appreciated.

Mark

Morning Mark

I'm afraid we can't tell you what type you are here, you will have to get that info from your doc. Given the fact that he hasn't put you on insulin however would suggest that you are type 2.
Someone will be along shortly to give you some comprehensive useful advice, it is possible to control your diabetes with diet alone. For the time being have a nose around the forum and get a feel for the place, any questions feel free to ask. :)
 

tree-peony

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First off... don't worry!

Somebody will be along in a minute with a pile of very useful information. It may seem a bit daunting at first, but it DOES get easier, I promise!
 

FractalFragger

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awesome thanks guys - i have only had the HbA1c and other tests this morning so i dont know what they are yet.

Bu thanks for the advise
 

xyzzy

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Hello Mark and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you're Type 2 like me given they haven't put you on any insulin or strong meds. Without wishing to be rude are you an even slightly overweight adult? I take it your doctor has explained why it's very important for you to get back in control of your blood sugar levels and what being diabetic means?

Daisy will be a long with some more stuff soon but in the meantime here's some info that worked for me and got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so. Not a cure as I still have to be VERY careful what I eat. I am really happy that I have minimised the risk of all those nasty complications. I In the 4 months since being diagnosed I have now lost 3 stone in weight as well. I went to see my nurse this week and she is very pleased how I am progressing and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since its working really well.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar. You may find it conflicts with advice given to you in this country as we have yet to update and still use older dietary recommendations. In fact we use diet guidelines that are over 30 years old. If you want to read more about these latest methods there is a thread discussing it with some useful links here http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28402.

Next most members would recommend you test your own blood sugar levels. Did your doctor or nurse give you a meter and strips? Some do and some don't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti!

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

Regards

Steve

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannik ... rograme_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 

AMBrennan

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1. What type do i have? (He didnt mention this)
Doctors will assume that it's type 2 unless there's a good reason to think it's not, such as the patient being a child or in acute DKA. Your prescription (or lack thereof) reflects this.
[There are tests for this; however, they are fairly unreliable and most diabetics are type 2 so they are not routinely used]
 

daisy1

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Hi Mark and welcome to the forum :) You have been given good advice by other members, now it's my turn :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Any questions, just ask as there is always someone who can answer you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

Blondage

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Well guys and girls just had gtt results all excited when receptionist told me result was 6.2 but that was the fasting one .After the glucose cocktail and two hours 14 something! Appointment booked at next clinic on 21st May. Told not too worry and watch my diet but although I was expecting this - still a shock. Anyone know if 14 after the two hours is incredibly high or still manageable and will respond to lifetime changes? Ps my Blondage user name is cos I am attacking this with humour!
 

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At this stage, you need to follow what your doctor says.
If you are diet only then he/she is assuming type 2, since type 1 [u]Must [/u]have insulin. Most doctors go on guesswork for this and then if the treatment seems to work, they think they've guessed right.
In general they assume very yyoung people, that have lost weight fast, to be T1 and older ones, especially if overweight, to be type 2. They are often right, but not always.
If on diet only, I can reccommend yyou cut back on carbohydrates and get a blood glucose meter to keep a log of what's going on. NORMAL blood glucose is about 5 and in non-diabetics, doesn't vary by much or for long.
Somewhere on the forum is a list of recommended blood sugars for before and after meals. I personally keep very much to the low end of the spectrum.
Hana
 

Blondage

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Thanks Hanna

Think it is going to be diet and lifestyle changes and review in 6 months or as required rather than meds at this stage. Just wondered if 14 plus after two hours of the glucose was considered exceptionally high. What have other fellow members scored on this bitter-sweet richter scale we call the gtt. Following advice and determined to adopt guidelines thanks to this form discovered soya and linseed bread!
 

xyzzy

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Blondage said:
Well guys and girls just had gtt results all excited when receptionist told me result was 6.2 but that was the fasting one .After the glucose cocktail and two hours 14 something! Appointment booked at next clinic on 21st May. Told not too worry and watch my diet but although I was expecting this - still a shock. Anyone know if 14 after the two hours is incredibly high or still manageable and will respond to lifetime changes? Ps my Blondage user name is cos I am attacking this with humour!

Hi Blondage

Yes 14 means you failed the GTT and have full blown T2D. The failure level is 11 after two hours. So welcome to the club that no one wants to join :lol: If you read Daisy's and my posts on this thread that will give you a good place to start hopefully. Just keep asking questions!
 

Blondage

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Like others have said -this forum has been crucial so far and I'm sure will continue to be my friend during the journey ahead so grateful thanks. I guess I knew what the results were going to be as I have pretty much all the symptoms but still a shock. What is disappointing is that diabetes in my case was probably preventable - especially as I have family history and tested positive for gestational diabetes 18 years ago. I just wasn't aware how much my risks were enhanced and wish I had been better educated to avoid this. Now it is important to me to raise awareness and stop others falling prey to this gremlin. I am taking on board everything written here - have two weeks to wait for diabetic nurse appointment at my surgery. Onwards and Upwards no time for too many regrets too much action needed.
 

stevolution

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Hi Blondage, welcome abard HMS Diabetes! :wave:

It probably won't help, but my fasting BG was over 15 when I was diagnosed, so we've seen worse. :)

On the positive side, you've joined an excellent community of very knowledgeable and extremely helpful people.
I've managed to get my daily BG averages almost halved in just over a week by following this good advice.
The shock will wear off and you'll realise it's within your power to get everything under control. :)