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Lean-Mass Hyper-Responder paper discussion video

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by ianf0ster, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. ianf0ster

    ianf0ster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Only a minority of Type 2 diabetics (TOFI's like me) will encounter this situation when they try a Low Carb or Keto 'way of eating'.
    At first I thought you had to be really lean (not just not overweight) and really fit in order to fall into this category, but apparently the cut off is a BMI of under 25 (at your fattest). So I almost sneak in OK so my HDL and LDL don't quite make it up there either, but you get the drift!

    Incidentally this doesn't take the view that such an elevated LDL is OK in the context of high HDL, low triglycerides and a Low Carb way of eating. Just that there are other people like this and so you're not a walking 'dead person'.

    It's also reassuring for anybody with Type 2 who is overweight/obese and concerned that a Low Carb Higher Fat diet would raise their LDL - the evidence shows it's unlikely to do so!
     
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    cynetique Type 2 · Active Member

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    Widgets Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    I am very glad that Ken Berry talks sense (aka I agree with him) because I could listen to that accent forever.

    Thank you for the link, not that I'm ever going to be in the TOFI category, but more information is always good to have.
     
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    DEBBIESCOTT MODY · Well-Known Member

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    Just checked my lipids, looks like I’m one too, bmi 18.1 time to up carbs a little?
     
  5. ianf0ster

    ianf0ster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    perhaps up the carbs a little, but be careful.
    I tested raising carbs (only by about 10gms per day for 4 days (to around 50gms per day) before my blood tests for my annual diabetic review. The lipid results show it apparently worked, but although LDL r(calculated) reduced and Triglycerides stayed constant, my HDL also dropped (which isn't what I wanted),
    So I had lower LDL and a lower Total serum Cholesterol number, all the ratios I care about got worse due to my lower HDL.
     
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    Lainie71 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Glad its not just me that likes the guilty pleasure of his voice. Him and Neil Oliver GBnews :shy:
     
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    ultradad Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I been wondering the same about myself, my BMI is about 24.9 now i think maybe a bit lower. Not sure the machine in boots was doing my body fat correctly but i should be about 25% now ?. Hoping its ok when i do a proper blood fasting test in 3 months but if i go by my bloodsugars every morning then everything should be working correctly.
    I think the GP is going to try and put me on Cholestrol tabs but i wont be having any of that as this is the best i felt in years
     
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